With all the division on here about guns and abortion, I thought why not make a thread about a topic everybody agrees on.;)
So the SOS in the states John Kerry has caused a bit of a stir with his comments about the possibility of Israel becoming an apartheid state in the future. CNN-Kerry's apartheid remark hits pro-Israel nerve
I personally think we will see Israel gradually become a "non issue" in US politics in the coming decades. You have a large base of the republican party (evangelicals) who have historically been the largest and most vocal supporters of Israel and it's people. And they are basically being pushed off of the political stage due to the GOP's increasing desire to court new voters (young people) who are more likely to lean socially liberal but still don't want to be 50/50 financial partners with the government.
The evangelicals are not gonna jump ship to the democrats either due to the parties abortion and gay marriage stance and if the GOP continues to pay no heed to them they will likely just stay home on election day, leaving a vacuum of people involved in US politics "standing in the gap" for Israel so to speak.
You might be thinking that this is all moot because jewish politicians and citizens in the states "will surely stand with Israel", but I don't believe that is avtually the case.
For all of the "tough talk" we heard from Chuck Schumer and Debbie Wasserman Scultz during the election to talk up Obama. They started talking in circles trying to spin after President Obama TOLD Israel they need to go back to their 1967 borders and chastised them on their policies there was nothing but cheap talk from jewish dems about him being taken out of context or misunderstood. There was no standing on principle against the president's statements for Israel's security at the cost of their own political clout.
Then you have the fact that the vast majority of American jews knowing Obama's positions and troubling comments about Israel still voted for him......twice.:scratchhead:
They say "well Obama's not really anti Israel" but the Israelis sure as heck think he is, his poll numbers over there are abysmal, how could a nation of people who are so politically minded out of self preservation(surrounded by people who want them killed) be so "misinformed" about our president's stance on their own nation?:rolleyes:
That being said I don't believe this will be a "death sentence" for Israel they will likely strengthen their ties with a handful of non hostile nations e.g. not Sweden;) which to be blunt they really should do regardless, (not safe to put all your eggs in one basket). The US will likely remain allied with Israel in a trade/economic sense just not the close partnership of the past.
So the SOS in the states John Kerry has caused a bit of a stir with his comments about the possibility of Israel becoming an apartheid state in the future. CNN-Kerry's apartheid remark hits pro-Israel nerve
I personally think we will see Israel gradually become a "non issue" in US politics in the coming decades. You have a large base of the republican party (evangelicals) who have historically been the largest and most vocal supporters of Israel and it's people. And they are basically being pushed off of the political stage due to the GOP's increasing desire to court new voters (young people) who are more likely to lean socially liberal but still don't want to be 50/50 financial partners with the government.
The evangelicals are not gonna jump ship to the democrats either due to the parties abortion and gay marriage stance and if the GOP continues to pay no heed to them they will likely just stay home on election day, leaving a vacuum of people involved in US politics "standing in the gap" for Israel so to speak.
You might be thinking that this is all moot because jewish politicians and citizens in the states "will surely stand with Israel", but I don't believe that is avtually the case.
For all of the "tough talk" we heard from Chuck Schumer and Debbie Wasserman Scultz during the election to talk up Obama. They started talking in circles trying to spin after President Obama TOLD Israel they need to go back to their 1967 borders and chastised them on their policies there was nothing but cheap talk from jewish dems about him being taken out of context or misunderstood. There was no standing on principle against the president's statements for Israel's security at the cost of their own political clout.
Then you have the fact that the vast majority of American jews knowing Obama's positions and troubling comments about Israel still voted for him......twice.:scratchhead:
They say "well Obama's not really anti Israel" but the Israelis sure as heck think he is, his poll numbers over there are abysmal, how could a nation of people who are so politically minded out of self preservation(surrounded by people who want them killed) be so "misinformed" about our president's stance on their own nation?:rolleyes:
That being said I don't believe this will be a "death sentence" for Israel they will likely strengthen their ties with a handful of non hostile nations e.g. not Sweden;) which to be blunt they really should do regardless, (not safe to put all your eggs in one basket). The US will likely remain allied with Israel in a trade/economic sense just not the close partnership of the past.
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