Did she like more than a friend, if so does she still like me more than a friend.

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Did she like more than a friend, if so does she still like me more than a friend.

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There is this girl who I used to sit next to in class and as far as I can remember every lesson she would either draw on my arm and/or start feeling me but not in the crotch region, she also used to compliment me whenever she could and randomly introduced me to her father. At the time she never used to ask me for my number but many of her friends did but only when she was around but I did not give my number in front of her friends as I used to get a lot of prank calls and texts from people who already had my number, I would not have been able to say "hey, do you want my number" as I was always kind of shy and thought that this would be cocky.

However, she then heard me and my friends making fun out of each others race's as we normally would for a laugh... Nothing serious :) After that she seemed to have quietened down around but has been showing more interest asking me about twitter, tumblr etc ever since she heard the conversation.

Any help would be appreciated
Sorry if it doesn't make sense but in my defence it is 3 in the morning.

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Suspecting infidelity

My wife of eight years recently told me I don't take care of her... Prior to that she has been saying we should just be roomates, she wants an open relationship, She can find me a Girl friend, etc....Getting to the root of the problem is going to be tough.. She has a job and saves all her money while I pay all the bills aside from her car and her phone which she just got maybe a month ago. Since sh egot this new phone it seems she is on it all the time, texting, etc. I walked in on her texting someone and she quickly turned the phone off.. once she got a text and immediatley went to use the bathroom. I asked her if she wanted to go out and she told me she has to work.. Yet, she has to work today and went out last night... I took at look at the history in our daughter's laptop and found that my wife had been searching hotels/motels in our area...

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stuck and confused

Two weeks ago my wife of 9 years informed me that she wanted a divorce. She has been a stay at home mom for our daughter for the past 3.5 years. During the conversation she stated that it was her desire for us to divorce and for all of us to move to another state at the same time to raise our child. I was destroyed by the news of the divorce and even more shocked that she would want to make things worse for our daughter by taking her our of her school and her local support network. Secondarily assuming that I would subsidize a move to another state that would result in a divorce. She says I am being controlling and insensitive to her needs and demands by not agreeing to move.

Almost immediately I spoke to a friend who suggested getting an attorney then logging onto this site. She stated I needed to learn to do the "180." Has anyone experienced a similar situation and what is the "180/"

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Jeremy Kyle show with the devastation cheating causes

The Jeremy Kyle Show 18 February 2014 Full Episode - YouTube

Both segments are bad -the first actually shows a perfect example of the cheater's script in action.

The second is especially heartbreaking. That poor chap. I really feel for him. :(

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How many of you talked to the spouses parents during a divorce?

So going through a bitter divorce. Wife is spreading a bunch of lies around town and told her parents I wouldn't go to counseling. Multiple things happened with her involving other men while we were together toward the end that her parents no nothing about. Always got along good with her parents. I just feel like a need to tell them that I did want to go to counseling and about the other stuff. I don't know if it is the right thing to do but it would make me feel better from a dignity point of view. Would this be stupid thing to do? Married 5 years, together 10.

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Are you a football fan?

Buffalo Bills' cheerleaders handbook: Here is how to wash yourselves - Salon.com

Excerpt from the story:

Quote:

It turns out the world of professional cheerleaders is often anything but cheerful. If the claims of a new lawsuit are to be believed, it can be a job in which you have to fight for minimum wage while being told how to manage the landscape of your own genital terrain. Following in the footsteps of cheerleaders from the Raiders, Ravens and Bengals who've come forward this year with their tales of payment disputes and humiliating working conditions, this week the Buffalo Jills suspended all activities in the wake of the new lawsuit that five of its cheerleaders are pursuing against their team and its cheerleader management groups. As the Buffalo News reports, the suit against the Bills — a team for which Mario Williams makes $6,500,000 — alleges it "failed to pay the former cheerleaders the $8 minimum wage for all the hours they worked … The five former Jills, who worked as long ago as the 2010-11 season and as recently as the 2013-14 season, were paid amounts ranging from as little as $105 to as much as $1,800 a year." And what obligation to the organization does this sort of money buy? According to documents obtained by Deadspin, "the Jills were subjected to weekly 'physique evaluations' during which defendants' representatives tested the Jills' bodies for 'jiggling.'"

These are the kind of sports organizations men cheer on and support everyday - how about you ladies?

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This is the end of my marriage too with a cheating slime bag

I wrote some time ago about OH having an emotional affair with someone from work.
I told him he had to stop any contact with her and I also heard that she no longer works there. I did the Var and checked his phone and found nothing, so we patched up the marriage, working hard to staying together.

He never ever admitted it was a physical affair.

Last Christmas he had a breakdown. There were some changes and he was not happy at work, he was very stressed. He actually tried to attack me physically but stopped himself. The kids were terrified and ran upstairs.

That night he was agitated and tried to jump from the balcony. I did everything to calm him down and I was contemplating calling the ambulance, but I did not want the children to witness the police and doctors trying to force a needle in his arm. I knew he would resist.

There were other issues that he never resolved, like childhood trauma and he also tracked his real father and the discovery was not what we all expected. His father is a womanizer and a very colourful character. He did invite OH to visit him, which has caused problems with OH and his mother.

I found him a councilor and he seems happy going there, even thanked me for encouraging him to do so.
Our marriage has been good since. He is very loving and no problems in the bedroom whatsoever.
I finally thought that we have put everything behind.

Coming to today.

I cracked his phone password( he did let me see his phone by the way whenever I asked) and discovered that he is still in touch with the OW who has now moved to another EU country.
He said he misses her and loved her more than anything, sending her selfies. The contact was all on What's up.

I now know that it was not only coffee hook-ups and friendly conversation. I also suspect that when he had the mental breakdown, it was the time she transferred to the other site. I feel disgusted that I was here picking the pieces and looking after him and he was paining for her.

Also, there were conversations with other 2 young girls, single mums. He did cross the line several times with sexual innuendos. It seems they have not met as the women live abroad, which is not really a problem for him as he travels there. They made comments about him having a wife and he did not reply to that, so he plays the single card.

I did learn my lesson second time from TAM and downloaded the lot and hid the evidence.

I will find a PI and get the OW's husband's name and address and I will pay him a visit with the evidence.

Unfortunately, I can not do anything about him chatting young women.
I am making an appointment with an Int. lawyers firm to see all my options regarding which country to file.

If anyone has any advice, please let me know. He does not know I know, but might suspect something is up as I am not my cheery self.
The slime bag has lied in my face and I can not believe how he can look me in the eye and say that he loves me.

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i guess we arent sick after all...

...those of us who practice kink.
i always assumed as much, but you wouldnt know it with how often we are told that we suffer some form of phychological illness, and that we need therapy to find out why we want to engage in an unusual activity.

Bondage Benefits: BDSM Practitioners Healthier Than 'Vanilla' People | LiveScience

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I caught my wife "sexting" another MARRIED man, already confronted her

Hi everyone,

My wife and I have been married for almost 5 years. We have Been together since October 2005. Since we have been married. We have not only been husband, and wife, but I always felt that we have also been like best friends. I always felt that she could tell me anything, and I could tell her anything. I have had complete 100% trust in her until this month. We also have a 5 year old son. ...Anyway, here it goes...

My brother/sister in law's house had a toilet overflow at the end of March. The toilet was on the 2nd floor, and water leaked through the carpet, flooring on two levels and into the basement. They hired a contractor to fix the issues. One of the employees of the contractor was someone they knew, and have known for years. Apparantly, he also knew my wife, and my wife friended him on Face book, and somehow got his phone number.

He was invited to my bro in law's birthday party where my wife also hung out at for the night. I was working during the party, but I chose to go after a long day of work. I was there for less than 15 minutes when my wife said "Why don't you go home, you look tired". ...I was tired, and I didn't know many of my bro in laws friends so I decided to go home (Plus I was still in my business attire, so I felt out of place as everyone else was dressed casually) ...Anyway, this guy that she has been "sexting" was there that night, and I think that is where things started to get out of hand between her and him and this texting.

So that was 2 weeks ago. After that weekend we went on a mini spring vacation. While we were there I noticed she was getting random texts to her phone. We would be out to dinner, and her phone would ding, and she would respond....10 minutes later it would ding again. After noticing this a few times I asked who it was, and she said "My Friend -----". " He went to school with my brother, and I know him from high school as well. He was in 12th when I was in 9th grade"

...I said Okay, and really didn't think much of it. Well we went to go visit my parents on vacation but she decided not to go. She said she preferred to go shopping, and I can just take our son to go see them. (She also does not like going to my parents house due to a couple reasons, and she doesn't get along very well with my Mom). So I said okay, and took our son to my parents and spent 4 hours over there. And she was on her own.

I also noticed that she was VERY protective of her phone while we were on vacation. It was attached to her hip, and she would point the phone away when typing if I was near her. She never did this stuff in the past.

...On Sunday night my wife received a CRAZY amount of texts while I was around, and I started to get mad about it because I knew it was this guy. I counted a total of 37 times her phone dinged in the course of an hour.

So I decided to wait until she went to sleep, and I would go check her phone before I go to bed. It was 1am...I took her

I saw this LONG TEXT CHAIN dating back to April 2nd. I estimate over 300 texts in total. They were fantasizing about kissing each other, and having sex with each other in most of the texts. Apparantly, the night of my bro in law's party while I was sleeping she was texting him. She texted "You looked like you were glad to see me". He texted "Yea". and from there it turned more and more flirtatious. She would text him kissing emoticons. He would text her stuff back. ...Like her and I did when we were dating, and a new couple. Sometimes they would just text each other while at work casual "Hey what you doing?" type texts...then later on in the day it would ramp up to them talking about having sex in a car, typing things like "I'm un buttoning your shirt" "I'm smacking that ass" ..."I'm pulling my **** out for you" ....

Lots more that I don't want to type, but you get the picture. ...I did not see any PICS that were sent to each other...it was all texts. However, she could have deleted those if there were any sent between them....


I confronted her at 1:15am, and at first she told me I was blowing it all out of proportion. Then after me grilling her for 5 minutes, she went on to tell me about little things that "caused her to sext"...

For instance. She says she can't stand that I put a cup next to the sink with some soda still in it all the time!!! ....:scratchhead:

She brings up these little minute things. She then told me that I have not been paying her enough attention, and doing things with her. YET, whenever I am off from work I ALWAYS try to get her to go do things. Wether its just us, or if my 5 year old son is included.

I had a lot of time off in January, and February, and whenever I asked her if she wanted to go out, she would say no. It's like she wanted to be a homebody, and in turn I felt as if she was pushing me away.

Well...Today she was disrespectful to her Sister in law in a text message, and the sister I law shows up. She acted hysterical, and screamed at her, and also told her mother. I wanted to keep this away from her mother because of her high blood pressure, but now CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG. My wife went crazy, and yelled at all of us to PUNCH HER IN THE FACE, AND HIT HER.

Of course we didn't, but the way she acted was very left field and totally unlike her. After a while, we had a calm discussion. My mother in law wants us to seek marriage counseling. MY MIL asked my wife if she would go to counseling, and my wife wouldn't answer her. After our 45 minute long conversation with my wife crying for most of it, and the rest of us venting, and trying to get inside my wife's brain as to why she would jeopardize our marriage, and why she has been acting the way she has been acting lately...my wife decided to end the conversation and lock herself in the room and go to sleep.


I don't know what to do. My mother in law told me to go get a marriage counselor, make an appointment, and drag my wife in with me. Is Marriage counseling the answer?

Overall, I feel like I failed. I am hurt, and my trust level with my wife is ZERO right now. My wife and I have not said I love you to each other since Christmas...I just realized that. This is certainly a low point. ...I told everyone I would have left her immediately if we were not married with a 5 year old. But I want to fix this, and make things work before leaving and getting into a divorce.

My Wife SWEARS nothing physical happened, only texts/sexts.

What should I do moving forward? Did I do the right thing by confronting her as soon as I found out? Can I trust my wife again? Or is it once a cheater, always a cheater?


I have to go into work, so I won't respond until tomorrow :(

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Hi, new here..

Hello, married mom from PA, saying "Hello" to everyone. I'm having trouble logging on using the mobile ap, any advice? Thanks! :smthumbup:

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I don't know which uni to choose, the pro's and con's of each... please help!

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I don't know which uni to choose, the pro's and con's of each... please help!

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I am going to university in September as a mature student at age 25. My problem is I can't decide between Bristol University or Exeter. They both are just as good as each other in terms of status but here's the problem.

I have developed a very close social circle in a town with friends about 30 miles from Exeter. I will go there every week to see my friends and socialise and put a lot of work into the relationships I made there. I have even been dating a girl for a while. As well as this, a long time, very very close female friend of mine (who recently told me she never wants me to leave her life and that she loves me) is moving AWAY from Bristol to the very town all of my friends live in! Bristol University is about 70 miles further away than Exeter. However, Exeter bores me, and I feel that I'd gain a lot more personally from Bristol. But then there's this huge social influence from my friends and the girls in my social circle which I don't want to lose contact with. The trip from Bristol to this town will be about a 200 mile round trip, which again I have no problem making in the slightest as I'd probably go down for the weekend to see my friends, but it's all money!

Now, on the money side of things, my dad is giving me the utmost help and giving me £50 extra a week for my uni duration to help. This should basically cover all travel expenses if I did want to travel down to this town to see my friends down there. However, there is still the fact that Exeter would be 70 miles closer and I'd save a lot of money.

Here are the pro's and cons to each:

Bristol Uni
Pros:
- Beautiful city with much much much more choice of things to do
- Bigger university, and I imagine (though could be wrong) a nicer social life, more clubs and better night life
- Well respected Russel Group university
- I will still get £50 extra a week from my very generous dad to help with costs, travel etc

Cons
- 70 miles further than Exeter, about 100 miles from my social circle (though I know Ill make more friends I put a lot of effort into the ones I have)
- Though I should have the money to travel still, it will still be a lot of money when compared to if I went to Exeter uni
- The social life might not be any different than at Exeter Uni

Exeter Uni
Pros:
- I'll save money as I'll be closer to home, and only 30 miles from my social circle
- I'll still make friends
- Well respected Russel Group University

Cons:
- Im bored of the city
- If I went to Bristol, I'll feel 'afresh' and feel I might grow more as a person if I were further away from home (but this might just be in my head!/an illusion).
- (And here's a BIG CON).. Whilst at this uni, I may still see my friends up in the 'other' town only a few times a month or less depending on when people are free, which might make me wish I chose Bristol!



I'm really confused and don't know which university to choose! I'd really appreciate someone who would read this and think and give me their honest opinion.

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How to start relationship when getting mixed/no messages?

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How to start relationship when getting mixed/no messages?

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Im year 11 and really like this girl in my year - she doesn't have a BF, but tbh I don't know how to start a first date or something. she goes the other direction home, so I don't talk to her outside school and the other people in my year try to make it really awkward whenever I'm around her. her friends tell me that she would go out with me, but she's never on her own for long enough for me to talk to her. any suggestions what to do?

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How do you know if you found the right partner?

Hi,

It's been almost 2 years since my separation and about 7 months since my divorce was final.

Luckily I was able to push myself out of the grieving process with the help of friends and family. Once in a while I still have gloomy days in which I miss having a partner, not sure if I miss my exW or just having a life partner.

So my dilemma is the following:

I started dating and have met a few people I liked. I do feel that I'm very closed off emotionally. Usually when I meet someone I like we'll start dating, have lots of fun, but when I feel that the other person is expecting the relationship to get more serious I disengage immediately. I've actually been told by my dates that I don't let them love me(get close to me).

There was this one girl. We met about a year ago. I asked her out but she blew me off, well she stood me up 3 times in a row, so I shut that door. Recently she came around and we started going out. In a 2 month period we saw each other every weekend and we ended up being intimate. The thing is she said she wasn't into friends with benefits and that if we wanted to keep seeing each other we had to be in a serious relationship. I felt a little bit trapped and told her I wanted for us to know each other a little bit more. She basically said we knew each other enough and that being just friends would be pointless. So that friendship failed.

This last girl I really liked. The type of girl you feel a connection with. But that scares me now. That's what I felt with my exW when we met and eventually we ended up divorced. It's been 2 weeks since I last saw her and I'm feeling down. It's like I want to reach out and see her but when I realize I have to commit I start seeing all the red flags and uncertainty creeps in, so I've done my best to stay away.

So my questions are: Is it that I am closed off emotionally to any potential new partner? or Am I more critical of who I will share my emotions with because of the failure of my marriage? and for those of you that have more experience. Will I ever be able to love again and let myself be loved? How do you know when it's the right person(I thought my exW was)?

Thanks in advance.

Providence.

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35 Year Marriage in a Vicious Cycle

I have also posted in the past in the Coping with Infidelity forum. I am married to a 3 time 'virtual' cheater, he's had two EAs with two OW in the past, the third time with the same OW. This ended a little over a year ago and we are reconciling, or trying to. He has done everything to prove to me he is no longer cheating and I see/feel no evidence of it now.

Our problems now are more this vicious cycle of conflict followed by rug-sweeping, but not by me, or not willingly anyway.

For example, this morning I tried to tell him about something that had happened last night that we didn't get to discuss as he was working late and I went to bed. This morning when I brought it up he would not let me talk. He kept telling me it didn't matter, it wasn't a problem, he knew what I was going to say. He literally would not let me talk. After trying to stay calm and several attempts to talk I got frustrated and ticked off, told him he was acting like a jerk and walked away to go do a workout.

After my workout and shower I went back downstairs to tell him it was not OK, what he had done.That people who care about each other don't act rude and condescending like that. He immediately turned it around and said "You do it all the time" I was just showing you what it's like, I was just kidding with you" etc. I told him I know I sometimes inadvertently interrupt him when I get excited or don't know he was pausing in a thought, but I had never done anything like that to him, literally talking over me and not letting me talk at all. He continued to now try to act like he was the injured party and then would not talk any more giving me the silent treatment.

This is the pattern. He has left now but will most likely come back and/or pretend nothing happened or make light of it and try and shift the blame back on me. Part of me is admittedly still upset with him about his cheating past but I do not throw it in his face at times like this, though I am sorely tempted. It would be a low blow, but really, he is trying to regain my trust and show me how much he cherishes me, and then he does this.

I try to stay calm but when he starts throwing it back at me I get perturbed and my voice rises and he tells me I am not right, I am just louder. I want to stop this vicious cycle as it gets us nowhere and then we let it go. He will not go to counselling as we tried it in the past and he felt "blamed" by the counselor. It seems that he is so insecure that he cannot admit when he is wrong, although I seem to do it all the time when I know it was my fault. Why can't he?

Is it just the way he is, or we are together? Is there anything I can do differently or is this normal couple arguing? It doesn't feel like it to me.

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Recently had my first kiss-left feeling confused..help?

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Recently had my first kiss-left feeling confused..help?

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I'm 19 and had my first kiss a few days ago with a male friend of mine that there has always been that vague 'something' with,that chemistry and he has admitted to liking me a lot since we met. I've always been nervous about this whole area as I haven't done it before and therefore have shied away from it with any guy in the past. But after having a drink(one drink that is) and watching a movie back at his,he hesitantly initiated a kiss and I responded and kissed back.We on and off kissed for the next hour or so after that,he guided me somewhat and reasured me as I embarrassedlly admitted I had no idea what I was doing(I was led to believe it was instinctive by friends..hmm)

But here comes the awkward bit.I got quite into it and it felt right (I didnt let myself think too much as I always overthink) and I ended up gently sucking his bottom lip and ended up kissing under his jaw and his neck which he seemed to like a lot and he did a bit back which I liked. After that we tried a little french kissing and I stopped then and felt that was a bit too much(and it felt really weird!) and a he said he wouldnt do anything I wasnt comfortable with and we ended up gong to sleep(I slept upstairs myself)

Did I go too far? Is that how first kisses go? Now we are trying to figure out where to go from here..and to be honest I am attracted to him but he isnt like any guy ive liked in the past or my ideal guy ..but there wasnt the whole 'fireworks' thing I've heard about from people.I did enjoy the kiss though..am I just being shallow?

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