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What happens after both parties sign??

My husband just agreed to go with me to the courthouse on Monday to both file and sign. Does this mean they don't have to serve him? What happens after we both sign? What is the next step? Im in PA.

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Our son's wedding

In 7 days, one of the twins (our oldest) will be getting married. It's a huge destination wedding with all the bells and whistles, wedding planners, endless bridesmaids, expensive hotels, the whole bit. My husband is in the middle east and will be missing the event.

I was told to find a song that I want to dance to with my son. I am a bundle of emotions right now. I want so much for his happiness and I'm not terribly confident that all will end well for him and his new bride. Very conflicting for me to participate in his most precious moment of becoming one while unbeknownst to him, my own "oneness" is becoming two.

I don't think I've ever felt so alone. I'll smile, put on a brave face, love and accept his new bride, and then I'll head off to my hotel room and let my heart break.

I don't know if it's appropriate to write such sad things in a forum like this. I'm not really asking a question. I just needed to tell someone.

Thanks for listening.

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Did she do it on purpose?

Lol, this is a true story, as all of my stories are. ;)

I just got back from a walk down the main street in my town. All the stores are there. I was walking and a rather voluptuous blonde haired woman was walking directly towards me. She was dressed in every day clothes but she caught my eye. As soon as she got in front of me she dropped her keys and bent down to pick them up, revealing her cleavage. I just laughed to myself and wondered if she did that on purpose so I could get a better view. Perhaps she didn't mean to do it consciously. Perhaps it was just a coincidence. Whatever the reason, I wish I offered to pick up her keys for her. So what do you think? Did she do it on purpose or not?

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Has anyone heard of or participated in Meetup?

I divorced. I have my closure, which by the way I just yet again read is necessary to move on, and now I feel like I am going to be defined by my divorce. This is not how I want to live my life. I have told my story and I am tired of hearing it.

So out with September the Month of Earl and in with October!

Has anyone participated in Find Meetup groups near you - Meetup

I am interested in meeting friends not so much a new mate and it looked intriguing!

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Does my wife have an obligation to tell me where she's taking our child?

I asked my wife where she was going with our child and she just said "out". When I asked where, she wouldn't tell me.

Does she have an obligation to tell me where she's taking our child?

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I think my marriage is falling apart

I need advice...

My husband and I been married for 6 years. We have a daughter and a baby on the way. It seems like we don't communicate anymore. I couldn't remember when is the last time we had a conversation that is not about his work or our child. He never asked how my day was, is it because I'm a stay at home mom. Or how am I feeling or my thoughts. When he's home, he really doesn't start a conversation I always ask him questions just for us to talk and when I do, he gets mad every time he answer. I don't know if I'm being too needy but it hurts me a lot knowing that our marriage is like this. I don't feel that he appreciates me. 6 years of no compliments from him and when there's an occassion like birthday, anniversary or mother's day I have to remind him and ask him if he can get me a card or flowers. No initiative. We don't have intimacy anymore. Although he say I love you when he leaves for work and rarely when we go to bed but not on random times like I do to him. I told him years ag o that I want us to go to a marriage counselling but he said no because there's nothing wrong with our marriage. Why he couldn't see it the way I'm seeing it? I do love my husband but it hurts a lot. I started sleeping in our spare bedroom because I just couldn't take it anymore, how we're drifting apart and I feel like I'm being taken for granted. I just don't get how can he acts like everything is okay. All these years, I've been wondering what's going through his head since he never tells me and when I asked he'll just say nothing. I wish one day I will wake up and realize that I don't love him anymore.

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Son's duties

So I had to go pick up my sister from my dad's house tonight. Don't know why, but something must've happened.

When I got there, Dad wanted to talk.
And we went into his study, and he poured some whiskey, and that was the first time we shared a drink. We talked for like 2 or 3 hours. Don't know how my sister didn't die from boredom. And I drank too much.

Towards the end of our conversation, and me straddling the line between tipsy and drunk, Dad said the marriage to his girlfriend set. Fiancé. Sometime in October. Or November.
And said he wants me as his best man.
Why the hell does he still want this?

I just asked for time to think about it, and came home.

What the hell is he thinking? We have barely exchanged words for the past couple months.
The new wife has a son. He could do it.
But it is nice being told I can do something that he can't. That I am what he wants instead of his perfect soon-to-be step son.

I haven't told anyone about it yet. My mom still treats me like the unwanted step child. Or it feels like it. I could probably not tell her and she would never know.
My sister might know something is up because she asked about it on the drive home, but I didn't say anything. And she was always daddy's little girl.

But what is the ring thing to do here?
My mother has refused to reach out for so long. At least he tried.
But he is the reason it happened. What is right in this situation?

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Conflicted....

Please someone tell me if I am just crazy or what...

I posted on the Coping with Infidelity board not long ago about my husband's affair (emotional affair for the past 5 months-but I feel like it became physical within the past month)... he denied anything but a friendship, refused to stop talking to her via Facebook (never any phone calls), but FB every day, meeting up for drinks, hiding stuff, lying (was an open book before this)... obviously more than friends. Then the weekend of 9/20, he said he was going on a guys trip and I busted him by looking at his phone and found out he was getting together with her. I told him if he went then our marriage was done... he argued it for about 30-40 minutes, saying that I 'could not control him" and that he "would be friends with who he wanted", but in the end he left for the weekend.

While he came home, I stuck to my guns instead of giving into him (we also have a history of him having major anger issues-no physical abuse but emotional abuse, name calling, bullying), and he threatened to kill me and tried to attack me with our daughter in my arms (I got out the front door before he could touch me, but he went after me) and I called 911. I did not have him arrested, and he refused to leave the house, took our daughter with him (refused to let her go and the police basically told me I had to leave or else). It was very traumatic. Throughout that night, he put our daughters in the middle of trying to get back at me (more emotional abuse), and the next morning I went and got a restraining order.

It has been about 2 weeks for the TRO and we are scheduled to go to a hearing this week. I have retained an attorney and am going to file for legal separation and also to extend the RO. He did some really horrible scary things that weekend, and has a history of anger explosions and emotional abuse, but really that was just a small percentage of our marriage. We have almost 10 years and 2 kids together and it is hard for me to just write that off.

I have to protect my children from him taking them away or emotionally hurting them, or even (God Forbid) physically hurting them or me (which I do not think he would do, but I did not think he would do some of the other stuff either, so I am living in a state of "what if") and have to protect my kids... in the meantime, they cannot see their Daddy, are afraid of seeing him, but miss him terribly. It is SO HARD.

So here is where I need the voice of reason or whatever... Am I just totally nuts for hoping that with counseling/anger management/parenting classes that he can or will change and we can end up working this out?

He has told a mutual friend that he has broken off his affair and wants to go to marriage counseling with me, but right now, my trust is so broken that I don't believe a word he says. It will take time and action on his part to prove himself. Am I nuts for even considering allowing him to do that?

He is not a monster. He is a really great guy who happens to have an anger problem that affects probably 10% of his life. That is 10% too much and it HAS TO BE FIXED or I will not even entertain the idea of saving our marriage, but what if he does it, am I crazy for wanting to save my marriage after all of this?

I am a Christian and believe in marriage. My parents had a really strong bond while I was growing up and overcame a lot in their marriage - they taught me to stick it out and not give up until the end. I also am not a quitter... It would be easy to quit. I is MUCH harder to stick it out and make it work. I am trying to see the big picture of what our future would be like if we could overcome this. I am trying to see the lesson it would teach our children if we could overcome this, or at least put our all into trying to... I mean I am not going to accept him back with open arms and allow the cheating or anger problems, but if he has expressed a sincere desire to work on it on his own then I feel like I should at least give it a little time (through filing for separation first instead of divorce) to prove it to me if he is ready to do that. I have been seeing a Christian counselor about this and you would think she would be pro-marriage, but I feel like she basically thinks I am just so warped for wanting to try to do everything I can to save my marriage and that alone makes me wonder if I am just so warped in my thinking or if maybe I need a new counselor (she has been twice divorced-wondering if she is projecting her own stuff onto me).

Please give me input on this... I have gotten such great support and advice from this site. I would love to hear other's input on this. Thanks :)

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Does this make me a bad person?

I am pretty much ready to leave my H. I call him my H on TAM but we aren't legally married. We have rings, a ceremony, etc but just never signed the papers. Hard to explain and most people don't get it, so I won't blame anyone for scratching their heads here.

Anyway, anyone who has read over my posts know that my H is emotionally abusive. I am constantly called a "sl*t" "w*ore" "b*tch", idiot, etc. And of course, it's always my fault.

He is super controlling. He goes ape sh*t when I don't do something he wants me to do. The other day I didn't tell him something about one of my ex boyfriends and he flipped out on me, called me a bunch of names, and harassed me all day about it. He wouldn't drop it. We own a business together and he refused to get any work done until I told him what he wanted to know, so a bunch of our customers' orders just didn't go out.

He gets angry if I wear anything feminine and refuses to go out anywhere social because he doesn't want other men looking at me. He gets upset when I go out. I avoided picking up my birth control pills because I didn't a fight about me going to the store. He even gets upset when I take my parents' dog for a walk without him.

You can read over my past posts if you want for more details.

I'm ready to leave him, but I still love him despite everything he's done. He's not a 100% evil person, unfortunately I go on TAM to vent so I don't talk about his good traits a lot.

He does a lot of wonderful things. For example, he never stares at other women and is always faithful. He tells me I'm beautiful everyday (when we aren't fighting of course). He is the type of man to show up with flowers or a card just because.

My mother has stage 4 terminal cancer and he has been there for me doing anything I need or just listening.

Despite his good qualities, I'm ready to leave. I just can't take our fighting anymore. I'm only in my 20s and don't want to waste my youth fighting and being depressed. I want kids and don't think I could raise a family with him.

Here's the problem, I feel bad about leaving him. We own a business together (it was all his idea and I am miserable working there) and we can't even keep up with customer orders working together. How will he do it alone? There's no money to hire anyone. I haven't had any salary the whole time working for/with him. He put everything he has into the business (I insisted on separate finances) and took out a loan. The business is barely afloat right now. It will probably tank without me and he will in serious financial trouble.

Also, he just signed a 1-year lease last week on an apartment he doesn't like. He did that for me. He doesn't like the actual apartment or the area, but he agreed to it because I do like it and it's close to my mom. I plan on moving in with her after the break up but then my husband will be stuck with the lease. My name isn't on it.

I don't want to stick him with an apartment he hates and serious financial problems and stress.

But I don't want to be in the relationship anymore. I don't even want to fix it. He won't see a counselor, and I don't even think I would want to anymore anyway.

So what do I do? Stick it out until he's secure? Run like the wind right now and leave him with all those problems??

The end of our relationship wouldn't be a shocker to him. I have told him I'm unhappy and don't see our relationship healing. But I still don't know what to do.

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Unsure where I stand with him..

Hello Everyone, I've been lurking and trying to gain insight. I'm at a loss about my current situation (aren't we all?). I'm hoping a little third party perspective from the male population will be able to put things into perspective for me.

First, I'm asking because I don't want to waste anybodies time; mine, or his.

A couple months ago a friend told me this guy we're friends with (and see daily) think's I'm cute. I thought nothing of it as I'd heard that he was looking for a purely physical, FWB, type of deal and that is not who I am. I knew, from him, he's recently, within the past year, gotten out of a serious relationship... so nothing about that seemed out of joint to me.

Not long after, he sent me a facebook message and invited me to coffee. I accepted, as coffee is coffee and I don't equate it to anything more than a friendly outing. Well, we never quite made it to coffee as out schedules didn't permit, but he did start making it a point to get to know me on a more personal level.

We started chatting about likes, dislikes, movies, music, food, common interests, etc. I was a bit reserved because I was aware of the fact that he was looking for a casual thing. Anyway, it became obvious that he was putting effort into getting to know me so we went and had dinner. I had a really nice time. He's really interesting, smart, witty, and has really refreshing manners.

I also hung out with him one afternoon and we walked through a park. Again, just talking. He did eventually kiss me. A nice, romantic kiss. Nothing sexy, nothing crass, nothing over the top. However, on this night he asked me where I saw this going. I answered him honestly and told him I hadn't given it any thought because I thought he was looking for a purely sexual relationship. He seemed somewhat irked that I would think that. Long story short... we agreed on day by day.

Fast foward.... It's only been a couple months, but I'm utterly confused. Typically, I take everything at face value. I go with what someone's actions say, or with what they verbally tell me.

He told me he's getting over the stuff from his previous relationship. I acknowledge that he's unavailable. I don't want more than he's willing or able to give.

Yet, his actions are that of a boyfriend. He didn't like the idea when a friend invited me out on a double date within earshot of him. He texts me every morning and every night. He talks to me on the phone while he drives home. He snaps photo's of him, the golf course, his cats, his breakfasts... anything really, and sends them to me. He calls me "peanut". When I walk down the hall, his eyes follow. He always texts me to ask if I want to sneak away for a kiss. And, this is just a quick idea.

It seems like a lot of effort for someone who isn't interested, no?

I'm 30. I don't want to be toasting Geritol at my wedding. I'm not interested in wasting my time on someone who has friend-zoned me. While I'm not in a rush to find a man, I'd rather not be closing myself to potential spouse material either because they think I'm taken or because I'm mis-reading this guy and closing doors.

Where is my disconnect between the actions and the verbal juju?

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Rib Pain - Does anyone know what this is?

So about three months ago I injured my rib. I fell on my side hard, and my ribs started hurting horribly on that side. It hurt to breath in or to put pressure on the ribs. It was very painful for about a month, but there was no bruising or swelling.

For the past couple of months the rib has stopped hurting, but it just feels sorta funny. It's hard to explain. They just feel like they are out of place.

I looked up "dislocated rib" but it said there would be bruising and intense pain, which I don't have.

I'm going to the doctor next week, just thought I'd ask if anyone knows what this could be.

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Tapatalk...what is it?

I'm clueless when it comes to technology but what is Tapatalk? I see people on here use it a lot?

Is it an app? How can I get it?
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Child can never have a good time

First want to say my son is spoiled by his grandparents. I would say 40k in gifts and toys, he is only 5. His mother and i don't buy him toys because his grandparents. They take him on trips and vacations. It's both sets of grandparents, I have ask them to stop but they can't. I think it's a addiction for him and them. He enjoys nothing and never has a good time doing anything. I'm sure some one has advice.

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Confused

OK. This is my first post in a forum, so bear with me. :eek:

A year ago, a guy in my dance class started flirting with me. He'd watch me all the time, and he seemed to enjoy getting my attention by dancing around. He'd get close to talk to me, and he started touching my arm. He was nver creepy about it, but was very nice and I found it lots of fun.

One day before class, we were goofing around. I took his hand for about 10 seconds to pull him back out to the dance floor because class was starting. Everything seemed fine the rest of the class, but the next time I saw him, it was like Dr. Jekylls head had spun around to reveal Mr. Hyde.

For about a month after that he acted like he hated me, He would hardly look at me (if he did, it was a glare) he snapped at my questions, and generally was very cold towards me. I was hurt and confused. He made it a point to be friendly to everyone except me.

I emailed him to apologize and ask what had happened, but he said he didn't notice anything wrong between us. That confused me further, as it was pretty obvious to me.

I started leaving as soon as class was over, stopped making eye contact, and I took the long way around him. I ignored FB posts, and his birthday. It killed me to act like that, but I figured if he hated me, what was the point of being nice?

Slowly, he came around and he is friendly again. We laugh and kid each other, but it's not the same. We seem to be keeping each other at an arms length.

I'm just wondering why taking his hand may have set him off like that. He has no girlfriend, isn't married, and was touching me long before I laid a hand on him.

I find it difficult to ask him about it again because he denied anything was wrong in the first place, so I'm looking for any outside thoughts.

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Women get bored with monogamy

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Living In Depression

I feel like I should go into a little back story since I removed my posts from here a little while ago. I have been married for about 3 1/2 years in an international relationship. We met in college dated for 7 years (2 of them apart) and after all the visa paperwork and process we got married. We are generally happy and love each other, but we have had major issues in the relationship. Most of it, I think, is centered around her depression. I think the bulk of her depression comes from living away from her culture and family. It also comes from other issues such as financial, personal interests, lack of mutual friends, and a lack of communication. I try to be supportive, and not engage in petty arguments when she tends to get worked up over little things. Over time the little put downs and the constant depression took its toll, and I also began to get depressed. I have a bad way of dealing with it which is I don't deal with it. I just push it down, and ch alk it up to her being depressed. I wont lie I feel a ton of guilt since she is sacrificing to be here for me. She comes from a much better off family and was accustomed to a style of living I sadly can't afford to give her. This built to the point where I had a minor melt down and got really depressed. My weight fluctuated like crazy. I would spiral and eat pie(s) everyday for weeks. Then hate my fat self and starve myself under the guise of saving money. It kept getting worse. I was overly emotional for months and months and would cry at random times. I am not an emotional person and that in itself was really hard for me to deal with. I finally got to the point I could not take it and began browsing marriage help forums. This is when I found TAM. On a really bad night I finally made an account and posted.

I put most everything out there. Some things were too embarrassing and some things I could not find a way to word with out making my wife out to be a bad person, which she is not. The members of the community diagnosed me as being a "Nice Guy". I read up on it and did not completely disagree with their assertion. They encouraged me to bring it up to my wife. Some more forcefully then others. I did not want a divorce I just wanted to make her happy. It was excruciating to talk about with her, and I could tell it hurt her to know how much she hurt me. But nothing changed at first. I regained my courage and did it again, and it was more painful then the first time. We did make progress. She started IC, and she has been trying to be more intimate with me. So why don't I feel better?

The small gains I made were nothing compared to the unexpected damage it did. My sex life went from nothing to roughly once a week. However I feel so guilty every time, because I know deep down she is not doing it for her. She is doing it to save the marriage. The real reason it stopped in the first place is because she always made it seem like a chore, and noticeably showed discomfort and dislike for anything sexual. So now in the moment all I can think about is finishing quickly or faking it so I don't have to put her through it. I can't turn it down because then she would feel bad. So I finally get a sex life and I don't want it, and I feel guilty for that also. I feel like now its my hang up and I should fix it, but I don't know how.

Anytime any problem comes up I feel like if I don't capitulate fast enough then a small disagreement becomes a major marriage problem. It always reverts to the "problems in our relationship". I feel like I am right back at square one. This is essentially what I was doing before I brought up my problems in the marriage. Now I just do it faster. I can't mentally handle rehashing every issue every night because something unrelated and minor gets brought up(what we are doing that night, what we should make for dinner, projects around house, etc.) I try to stand my ground sometimes but it never seems like it is worth the outcome. I am really bad about making excuses to myself about why its ok. There is always a reason why I should not push it.

The hardest change has been that now that she knows how I feel she is constantly suspicious of me. I had told her what a great help TAM was for me. Early on I had told her that if she was not ready for IC than she should browse the posts on TAM just to get an idea of what other people are dealing with it and how. She came back way more depressed and realized what she was putting me through. She saw that our problems, which at the time she did not think were a big deal, were way worse than most of the people complaining on TAM. I was happy to hear her taking it seriously, but there was a downside. The folks on here also told her that I am almost positively going to cheat on her, that is if I had not done it already. So she does not trust me having any female friends. Old ones, new ones, old, young, and/or lesbian it became an immediate issue. First with girls I am good friends with, and even later with more acquaintance level. She was also upset at the realization that I had a t least a few close friends that I was talking about my problems with. She was hurt by that, and maybe rightfully so that I did not have the courage to come to her before asking my best friend for advice. I think more so was the fact that they knew we had problems now, and that embarrassed her. So now I have no one to talk to, and I am not looking for anyone because it would do more bad than good in my relationship.

I feel the depression building in me. I am not motivated. I am eating way too much and feel myself getting fat. I hate my weight and body image. I am lighter than I was in elementary school but I am not who I want to be. I am not at a good place in my life to deal with this. I realized now that the reason why I have no time is because I made a point to keep busy so I would not pay attention to life and not be depressed by it. I work full time, go to school full time(only 2 terms left), I bought a fixer upper duplex a little over a year ago (and am still fixing things, but rental has been done and rented for awhile), and I source parts for my father in-laws company a few times a month. I don't have time to mope around or get distracted.

Ever since I came back from a stressful vacation trip I have been out of it. All I want to do is hide away so I can drink coffee, smoke, and day dream. I catch myself just starring off into space for hours thinking about everything but my life. There are so many things that I worry about and go over constantly in my head. It bothers me that I have completely shelved dealing with my relationship. Even in my own head I hide from it. I don't bring it up with myself. How could I ever bring it back up with her? I don't think I want to. It almost ended the marriage and I am not ready for that. I don't know if I ever will be.

I love my wife. I just want her to be happy. I honestly think if I could just know for sure that she was happy that I would be also. I know the retort to that is that I should not tie my happiness to hers, but I think that is a ridiculous idea. Can any partner really be happy in a marriage if they know the other partner is not? Can you really be happy knowing the person you love is not happy?

I want to ask a stupid question. I wrote this to ask this question, but I think I gave myself an answer in the process. "How do I stop being depressed without upsetting or changing what it is that depresses me?"

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My husband cheated but I am the one all the focus is on...

Hi, I'm new here and looking for some insight. I have been with my husband for 3 years and married for a year. After a few months of dating he one day out of the blue accused me of talking to someone, which I was not because as far as I knew we were exclusive at that point. I was a bit taken back but assured him I was faithful. About a month later he accidentially sent me a text that was intended for a "friend" of his I knew nothing about. I later went through his phone (childish I know) and discovered several flirtacious texts between the two. I confronted him and he told me it wasn't like that. He promised never to talk to her again and as far as I know he hasn't.

Throughout our relationship and marriage he has accused me from time to time of being unfaithful. If I take too long at the store he asks why I was gone so long. If I took too long messaging him back I was talking to someone else. Things like that. He wouldn't get mean about it....just make snide comments.

Fast forward to this past July when I caught him messaging a coworker. When I confronted him he lied twice then laughed it off after I showed him the evidence. Once he realized I was serious and leaving he changed his tune. He has apologized profusely and taken steps to "make it right".

HOWEVER, he has continued to accuse me of talking to someone else. It's actually happening more frequently now. He gets upset if I don't talk to him while he is at work and claims it''s only because he is bored and likes my conversations. I am sick of the accusations and sick of feeling the need to validate him all the time. Why is he doing this? I can only assume he is still cheating and perhaps feeling guilty. I have full transparency and haven't found anything suspious since but I don't know.

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how do I at least make one last attempt

Hello, I have never posted on here before. My wife left on March and I am frankly still as lost today as i was the day she left. Have been married 15 years, dated 2 before that, we are both in our late 40's and have no children.
Like so many I thought we had a great marriage, even 2 weeks before she left she was telling me I was the love of her life, that she was happy. Being a simple guy that tells me all is right in the married world, we dont have any big problems as far as I know.
2 weeks later she walks into the house, tells me she doesnt love me anymore, she hates me because we never had a child, twins actually, and she moved out and moved in with another man. Ironic part of this is, she couldnt have children and she never wanted to adopt. I know the person she moved in with, we live in a small town, known him for 30 years, so I knew how that relationship would go, after 2 or 3 months he would get bored and out she would go.
My wife has had depression issues for several years and was taking medication which she quit taking shortly before she left which was about the time her perimenoupausal syptoms starting going into overdrive. She has been out of work for 2 years and working just a part-time job which she is overqualified for. Her father was hitting the more advanced stages of alzheimers and that was taking a toll on her. And one of her beloved dogs had advanced cancer and her time was just about up.
Its like I hit a perfect storm of everything at once hitting her and its like she just snapped. She wanted to run away from her life and change everything.
She filed for divorce without telling me, one day she cleaned out the bank accounts out of the blue. One day I came home and most of the furniture was gone out of house and she basically has been driven to destroy my life since then. She calls the police with claims that I am breaking into her cellphone and reading her text messeges, she calls them claiming I am sending spies into her place of employment keeping a watch on her none of which is true. She will send me a text once in a while with crazy demands and refuses to ever talk about anything. We havent spoken or seen each other since the end of May. I told her several times before that when she is ready to address the issues or problems she feels are in our marriage I would be more than happy to talk, we could go to a therapist, meet with her family whatever I would be willing. If she wanted to discusss breaking up the marriage and how we will divide things up etc, we can sit down and discuss that.
She just refuses to talk, even her demands dont make sense, she wanted her clothes out of house at one point after I finally changed the locks. I told her to call me and arrange a time to pick them up, yet she refuses to pick them up. I offered to deliver and she says she is scared of me, how or why I will never know. Anyway why demand, when you have no intention of picking up or wanting them delivered?
The now ex-boyfriend threw her out at the end of July, just like every single person in town told her would happen and the day it happens she files a restraining order against me accusing me of breaking into her boyfriends house and stabbing her favorite teddy bear in the heart....I was not even in the state when this incident occurred and had plenty of witnesses etc. It was a joke which finally got dismissed yet this girl just says everyone lied for me cause they like me better than her.
She has done the most outlandish and crazy things these last few months, she needs some help. When she was living with the other man, she was in fantasy land, it was non-stop partying, he is retired and has money. I knew sooner or later that would end so I told her that when she is ready to talk or when he finally throws you out to not have too much pride, that I will listen, I want to listen and I want to understand what is happening with her life. and if she needs help I would help her.
Every single person who has met or talked to her since she left all agree, she has had some sort of mental issue going on. She is now living in her car even though she has the financial means to get a house or apartment. I would leave our house and let her have it if she wanted it, we arent in a bad position moneywise.
So I have rambled, given you some highlights of the year of hell so far, we are no farther along in divorce proceedings as far as any negotions than we were on day one cause she wont make any decisions or cant. Even her own lawyers says she doesnt apprear rational, she refused to show up for hearings. I still to this day want to help this girl out, she is the love of my life. Do I believe we can ever be a happy married couple again, I honestly dont know and yet I am still willing to try and at least get some true closure if that be the case. All the books, all the internet sites etc, it all comes down to communication, talking openly with one another, its not hard, things may be hard to hear but at least its a starting point.
Yet as much as I want to send her a text and try at least one more time, at least tell her that her dogs I am caring for are doing well, she had 4 dogs, ask her how her father is doing, cause I care about him.
Simply how do I at least try and get her to start talking one last time. Even if its deciding how we are going to divide up the house etc. It sure would be much easier if the two people who it affects could make some decisions instead of lawyers and courts who at the end of the day just dont care.

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How to remain civil with EX at wedding

My "ex" brother in law is getting married in a few weeks. Plus, I'll be one of the groomsmen in the wedding.

And his sister (my EX) is coming.

Both he and his sister have had a terrible relationship ever since her affairs became public. They don't talk anymore and when they do it becomes argumentative/ugly.
This whole time, he and I have remained close. He's the Uncle of my kids, lives close by and is a great role model.
I'm in his wedding as well as my kids. His sister is coming to the wedding (reluctantly I believe because she doesn't want to face all the friends and family (including my sisters and mom)that will be there). It's one of the reasons I believe she ran away to another state.
It's gonna be awkward as hell because many of the friends and family havent seen her since she left 2 years ago. Her brother was even debating having her at his wedding. But in the end, he extended an invitation and she's coming.

So how do I handle this without it seeming so awkward? I'm assuming she'll sit at the same table with me and our kids. And she's going to probably turn on the charm like she usually does when she wants something. After getting lied to so much, I'm just repulsed by her at this point. But I can be the mature type if I need to.
So any suggestions on how to best handle this?

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Sacrifice Issues

I've been with my boyfriend for a little bit over 10 months now. A while ago, he went to a concert to see his favorite band. I didn't really want him to go because I didn't want to be left home alone, while he would be out having fun.

He went anyway and then I confronted him about it. I mentioned that "relationships require sacrifice" but he said "why should we sacrifice in our relationship?" If he thinks like that right now, what will happen when we're married? I don't want him to 'keep score'. What should I do? If he doesn't want to sacrifice a small thing like a concert for me, how will we deal with big things in our relationship?

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Would like perspective about blame

Hi,

I've not been on here in a long time. I had a situation that came up that is an ongoing pattern in our marriage.

My husband has a sore elbow (for a long time...years). I am aware that it is an issue and I care about him, but I imagine I don't think about it as much as he does (obviously b/c he is the one in pain). Here's what happened...

I was carrying things. I asked him if he could carry some of the things. I handed them to him. Let's just describe it this way. I handed him a book with a magazine on top. All he saw was the magazine, so when he took the items it caught him off guard and he had to sort of adjust suddenly as he felt he may drop them. That caused his elbow to get sore again (it had been feeling a little better).

He got quiet (he's not much the quiet type) and then later said he had to get it off his chest that he felt like I set him up to get hurt. Now, he's not accusing me of intentionally hurting him, but he said he doesn't trust me to not cause him pain. I stayed really calm in all of this (mostly) and just let him talk and listened the best I could (thank you Al Turtle). He said that if he'd known there was a book underneath he could have handled it differently. I really do understand, but how responsible am I here? He's a grown man and aware that he has an issue. He actually used the word boobytrapped three times.

I don't know if I am being insensitive or if I'm being unfairly blamed. I actually had a consultation over a year ago with Al turtle about a very similar issue (I adjusted my hand while we were carrying something large and didn't warn him and it caused him to be hurt in a similar way). Al said no way am I responsible for that. We're all responsible for our own bodies. But, how does one get another person to see that they are unfairly blaming?

I didn't make a big fuss about hurting him right when it happened, and I have a feeling that if I did this would not be as big a deal as it is.

If I could hit rewind on the situation, I would tell him what was in the stack, of course. I do not want to see him in pain. But, where does this end? How responsible for his well being am I?

I feel like this is manipulative. I feel like I often suppress my outrage at this unfair blame and it causes me a great deal of anxiety to just quietly endure this.

thank you for reading this and providing any perspective.

-k

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Dating someone but not getting any "encouragement"?

Hi,

So I'm seeing a girl (for the last few months, 5 "dates"). We've had fun and really enjoyed our meets (even coming from her). Unfortunately, no physical contact more than a hug.


I just feel like I need a bit of positive encouragement that we are at least heading somewhere. A few times she has said she likes me more and more, but I need that encouragement to remain in order to try the next step.


I don't know if anyone here feels like this? I also feel like this is heading nowhere even though the girl has told me it takes a while for her to like someone.

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Exclusivity but still on POF?

Hello all,

I have been seeing this guy for a couple of weeks now. On Wednesday we agreed to be exclusive and he asked me to make it official on Facebook (obviously only Saturday now). We have slept together and seem to be getting closer and he introduces me to others as his girlfriend (although not close friends). Things seem to be going well. He's in touch a lot to arrange seeing me again etc etc. Anyway before we became exclusive, he told me that he liked me but that he's "still technically on POF". He's still on it now but it's listed as "online this week". At the same time, I'm still on Match.com. I wonder why but I don't want to distrust him. Could be that he hasn't even bothered to think about online stuff since he works long hours in his job. How should I broach this? Should I do it by asking him if I should delete my match account? At the same time, I don't want to ask him myself because he'd obviously just do it 'cause I say rather than because he wants to, if that makes sense. How do I ask him about the subject?

P. S. he is a bit gauche. At some point he said "I'm going to see how this goes for 2 weeks". Although at other times, he's hinted at us going out together for Halloween and said he wants to meet my friends. And at one point said "I can see myself dating you until at least December" lol. I just laughed and said he's being far too honest with me.

Thanks guys! And blunt honesty is always welcome.

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