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Massage therapist hitting on me?

I play sports and used to get a little tight after matches, so
rang up this mobile massage co. in London.

I've had this female massage therapist visit me on 5 occasions now. She is hot, probably in her late twenties with great legs and such a fit body. She gives me a full massage, back , glutes and legs.

She talks really sexily during the massage and tends to rub the inside of my thighs when I'm facing down. I end up getting a massive erection.. cos she's so hot and it feels great.
When I face up, (towel covers my privates), I'm erect and reaching for the stars lol. She does my chest and then my legs. Again she does the thighs and I really want her to focus there tbh.
On the last occasion, she accidentally flicked my ..well you know.. under the towel and continued like it didn't happen. She can see how hard I am. Sometimes she goes "Does this feel good?" when massaging my thighs. I would like to keep my eyes open and watch her do it, but then she appears embarrassed.

Is she hitting on me? I've already tipped her the first two visits well and I'm continuing to see her.The time before last she gave me a kiss on the cheek before leaving..

How can I ask her to focus on my thighs? And can I watch her whilst she massages me?

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pushing myself to go through with it

Sorry in advance for the long story...

Around Jan 2013 the wife of 7 years (2 kids, 3 and 6) starts telling me she isn't happy in the marriage. Like most guys I guess I was blindsided. She says she still loves me but she continues to get more angry and emotional around me. Stops talking to me during the day and doing lunches (we work across the street from each other). No sex, no intimacy, situation not looking good.

Then in March 2013 I happen to check the phone records. Never occurred to me that she would be cheating I guess. Calls every day, sometimes 15+, totaling hour or two of conversation to this unknown #. I call her up and ask. We meet at home she tells me she never loved me or was attracted to me and that the # is some guy "Brent" that she works with. She works for a home builder here in MN and said Brent did various duties. Refuses to tell me Brent's last name.

But she says the marriage problems are all my fault. Says she needs me to put her first but can't describe how I'm not. Says she needs space. For the kids sake we take turns moving out for a few days vs her moving out completely. She then tells me I'm emotionally abusive. The targets keep changing. Meanwhile I have been doing IC with a Christian counselor since March. She refused to do any joint MC.

In July 2013, finally she says she's done so I hire an attorney and serve her papers. She says she can't do it to the kids so we need to work it out. But to bottle my issues up because she just can't care about me right now. She decides she should quit her job to focus on the kids who were suffering through this. Okay...

She never does MC. Never tells me Brent's last name. Lied about hidden bank account and when I start getting close to the truth because nothing made sense, she just kept telling me lies upon lies vs being honest. Probably 3-4 days worth of new lies until I got the truth. Blaming me the whole time.

Sept 2013 she starts telling me she loves me. Sleeping by and with me. No arguing really but still won't discuss any issues.

Oct 15, 2013 The home builder offers her a new job to come back, big promotion, big money. $100k+ Its her dream job, how can I say no. Plus we needed the money. She says Brent doesn't even work there anymore.

11/01/2013 Day after Halloween, I ask her when can she go to MC because I'm having anxiety over never talking about any of these issues and they aren't going away.

She never came home that night. Only answered the phone to tell me she doesn't love me and she is done and not coming back. Comes to the house and takes whatever she wanted (bed, dishes, etc...) when I am at my dad's birthday party with the kids the following day.

I don't know what I did wrong. It's like I wasn't allowed to have any emotion the whole time. I lived in my basement alone for 6 months, she never once came down by me.

I filed for divorce on 11/05 and had her served. Found out a week ago that this guys name isn't Brent, it's Mike Tarn*** who is an electrician, is married, and has 2 kids.
She had been lying the whole year to me. Told me I was crazy and all these issues and I was 100% to blame. I have been doing Christian IC for 9 months now, alone.

I love my wife dearly but I feel like this whole thing has been a sham. She was lying the whole time... what hope was there ever for us?

I feel like I did everything I could do and as much as it hurts I need to be free of her. She has been moved out for a month, she never calls to talk to me. Calls me to talk to the kids when I have them (joint custody) but ignores me entirely when talking to the children. Not even a courteous hello, goodbye or anything.

What did I do wrong? I'm hurting pretty badly and trying to hate her for what she did to me and our kids. I don't believe in divorce at all. But I don't see any other way.

When people go this crazy with the habitual lying, passive aggressive, narcissistic behavior is there any hope of them coming back? No chasing, begging, or pleading will help. I know that. The divorce filing didn't phase her. Should I just accept it's done, get over her, and move on?

I can't be the only one to have gone through something like this. I don't know if there was an affair or not - all I know is they were talking. I can guess stuff. But the killer for me is the lies. We were together for 10+ years and she has been my best friend.

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The Story of S and C

I've been debating a while now about putting this story back up on TAM. I took it down when I left TAM earlier this year. I decided to put it back hopefully as a warning to some, and to offer hope to others. It's a long read but then it's a long story.

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Several people here at TAM have asked me, "So, what's your story?" I keep telling them I'll tell my story some time. I've been asked several times so here it is. I'll probably break it up a bit as I guess I can get wordy when talking about myself.

I met the woman I thought I would spend my entire life with on a summer job with the California State Park service. We worked well together, had the same sense of humor, and I thought she was REALLY pretty. Her mother was Swiss and her father was Chinese and she was a beautiful blend of the two. Sure she had her quirks but who doesn't right?

We kept in touch after our summer job ended and eventually started dating. After a year I asked her to marry me. She accepted. We were in college, taking the same classes. All our instructors called us "the lovebirds." After a year of dating I asked her to marry me, she said yes without hesitation. Life was great. She took a job as hostess/waitress at The Good Earth, and I was transitioning between a job as a cook to a job as a delivery driver. At one point I had been awake for 48 hours and was returning home after a night of driving delivery. That's when I fell asleep.

I woke up skidding sideways on the wrong side of the road. A split second later I heard a loud, sickening crunch sound and the left side of my body went numb. I was broadsided by a woman in a Pinto. I found myself in the passenger seat with my head hanging out of a broken side window. The car was on the opposite shoulder now rolling into a shallow ditch. Somehow there were already people standing around my car yelling at me to put the emergency brake on. I slide over and pushed down with my left foot to engage the brake, felt a pain up my left side.

This was the accident that changed my happy go lucky life for almost forever. I was sent to the hospital in an ambulance. I got there and they said I was lucky I was not wearing a seatbelt in this case. I'd have almost certainly been paralyzed from the waist down given the accident. I ended up with a minor concussion, all my left hand ribs were cracked, my spleen was bruised (not sure how they determined that). I was on a 24 hour watch for an emergency spleen removal. Luckily I kept it.

I was recovering but my fiance didn't seem her normal self. She was a mixture of concern for my health and anger at me for getting in the accident. Within a month I was in court. I hadn't spoken to a lawyer or anything. While in court the bailiff came up to me and asked where my lawyer was. I told him I didn't have one. He told me when the judge asks you how to plead, tell her you plead no contest and tell her I said so.

So the judge asked how I plead to the charges, I told her no contest. She asked did anyone present or any officer of the court ask you to plead this way. I told her, yes, the bailiff did. She threw her gavel in the air and asked the bailiff to approach. He winked at me.


Turns out that the Judge was best friends with the woman I got into an accident with. That woman worked in probation and had friends at the jail. I was about to sent to jail and have the sh!t kicked out of me daily for as long as they could keep me there. The bailiff saved me from that. The case was transferred to another court.

So I got a public defender and I'm going through the courts, they don't want to prosecute until the civil lawsuit that was filed against me was settled. Plus her lawyers never showed up in court. The judge kept continuing the case. Meanwhile my fiance kept getting more and more distant and angry with me. We almost never saw each other. I still had a night job driving delivery. I finish, jump on BART (local transit) go to her house and crash in her bed while she was at work during the day. Then she'd come home, wake me up, I'd go home and shower and change and get ready for work again. I had dropped out of the college I was in and started at a 2 year vocational college instead. It was hard fitting that in as well.

I was finally offered a deal by the judge, 5 days community service or take it to a trial, which assured me I would be found not guilty. I told him I was as tired of seeing him as he was of seeing me and I'd just take the 5 days community service. He smiled and said DONE! Right after this I got a call from my fiancee. She said she wanted time to find herself and figure out if we really had a future together. Uh, what?

So turns out she dumped me for a sailor she had met at work. She had been seeing us both for some time. I was heartbroken. I still loved her. I thought with my legal troubles over (though I still had a lawsuit to pay off) that things would be better. Nope. She was gone and that was that. I fell into my darkest time ever. The pain was unbearable to me. I finally tried to slash my wrists.

Luckily I wasn't very good at that. I called my best friend M (a woman who was more like my sister and probably loved me more than my sisters). She called me an idiot in her loving way and came over and helped me clean up the blood and bandage everything up. Luckily I didn't hit a vein. She was a big comfort to me in the following months. We hung out a lot, went places, just had fun. I started hanging out with my old friends a lot too. That's when I started hearing stories from M and my friends about things my fiance had done or said to them. Apparently she was a real b!tch to them. She was actively trying to drive a wedge between them and I. I was so twitterpated I couldn't see it. I learned a lot about her from them.

I started trying to get more active in my church. Getting back to singing in the choir again and playing handbells. And I started trying to get to know a certain young woman named C a little better. C had actually gotten me in trouble when I was still engaged. My fiance caught me looking at her during a handbell practice and I heard no end of it. It turns out C would play a huge part in my life.



I started trying to get to know C. At first she tried to politely avoid me. We sometimes rode the same bus from BART and I would try to talk to her, she'd be polite but no dice. However, soon we started talking at church. My life was getting better my court troubles were behind me and I now had a stable good paying job. I worked swing shift which was never really busy. I would go over to one of the phone booths in another building in the plant and call her. The calls started out every other week, then weekly, then daily. We would talk for hours. I just loved her voice. So soft and sweet. She was so kind in listening to my troubles and I tried to listen to hers.

I asked her out a couple of times. We went to movie and walked around Tilden Park. Then she said she felt like this was a time that she couldn't be dating in her life. I respected that and just talked to her on the phone some more. I asked her out again and we started going out and doing things again. Usually regional parks. By this time she had let me kiss her. She had never kissed anyone before me and no one had ever kissed me like she did. Just... wow. But again, I made the mistake of referring to her as my girlfriend and then she told me she didn't want to date at this point in her life. I quickly learned that if I didn't call it dating, she go out with me and make out. Just don't call it a date, and don't call her a girlfriend. Check.

Well, one night her ultra-conservative parents (she was 20) found out she was at my house, with my entire family, AFTER DARK! It was a scandal. They came to the door and demanded she leave with them immediately. I didn't see her again for almost 2 months. They took her back to their home country to talk sense into her I guess. I was devastated. Her friends really became my friends at that point and consoled me and cheered me up noting that she had one more year of college to complete, they would have to let her come back.

And she did. I waited until she'd been back a week before I called her. She almost didn't want to talk to me. I just laid it on the line. I told her that I loved her and wanted to be with her forever. I told her I wanted to see her. She was reluctant but agreed. When we saw each other there was a brief pause but then we were all over each other, rolling around on the floor even. The C I knew came back to herself and she told me she wanted to be with me too but didn't know what to do.

That's when I asked her to marry me. She told me her parents would NEVER agree to that. I told, I know. I asked her again to marry me, that I would plan everything if she would just agree. Tears welled up and she said yes. Two weeks later I showed up at her house in my truck, helped her pack all her stuff into my truck and her car and we left for Reno. We eloped. Not quite, I took my whole family with me. Mother, father, sisters, everyone but my brother who was still in Georgia. We spent the night before at my sister's house. We spent our first night together in sleeping bags on her living room floor. We didn't sleep a wink, C was so nervous. Nervous about the wedding, nervous about her parents. We had left a note for them and they had gone ballistic calling everyone we knew demanding to know where C was.



We married in Reno, honeymooned in Disneyland, and I was back to work by Monday. I had rented us an apartment and had moved everything there prior to the wedding. We settled into our lives but her parents constantly harassed us. He father threatened and bellowed. Her mother demanded a second wedding that she could attend. So we got married again at our home church. Everyone was ecstatic except for her parents. Her father wouldn't come and her mother had to be helped to her seat because she kept fainting. Ugh.

Things finally simmered down and we tried to be happy with our lives. My wife graduated UC Berkeley and got a job. We moved out of the Bay Area and bought a home. She found a job close to our new home but I was still commuting 2 hours to work both ways. After being married for 5 years we felt like something was missing from our marriage. It had kind of become boring. We tried to travel as money would allow, the sex was great, the freedom was wonderful but we were just kind of bored. We decided it was time for children.

C quite her BC pills and we tried to get pregnant. Nothing happened for months. We tried all the usual stuff; boxers, taking her temperature to determine ovulation, best positions for impregnation. Kind of funny to think about now. Problem was, she was stressed at work. I took her on a long vacation to Florida and when we got back, BAM! She was pregnant! And this instantly healed the rift between us and her parents. ;)

We enjoyed feathering the nest for the new baby. Went to the classes, childproofed the house. Bought baby stuff. All the fun things new parents do. Her labor and delivery was very easy (from the doctor's perspective). She was only in hard labor for 4 hours. And then there he was, my perfect baby boy! We had so many hopes and dreams for him. We were planning his life out for him and he was still in diapers. But my mother and father noticed something. They kept clapping their hands and snapping their fingers by his ears. I told them to cut it out, it was weird. My mother tried as gently as possible to tell me there was something wrong with him and we should get him checked.

Sure enough he had moderate to severe hearing loss. Probably due to a high fever he had when he was 8 months or so. Okay, so we can adapt to this. I used to speak American Sign Language fairly proficiently in college I could pick it up again. Or do we teach him lip reading. At least we were relieved that now his developmental delays could be explained. We were assured his hearing could be corrected via hearing aids and that as soon as he could hear clearly he'd catch right up. Well, he didn't.

We had several evaluations done but most doctors told us to just give him more time, he'd catch up. C pushed and pushed the doctors on it and we finally ended up at UCSF for an evaluation by Bryna Siegel, an autism expert. My mother kept putting the autism bug in our ear because she used to work with autistic kids. Something I never knew until that point. We had S Jr evaluated and sure enough he was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder and was judged to be on the moderate to severe end of the scale. She very matter of factly told us to never expect him to love us or anyone else and that we better just get used to that fact right now. Ugh.

C went into red alert mode. She started researching the best ways to treat autism and finally settled on an aggressive in home program. We discussed it and she quit her job to stay home and run the program. She blamed herself for a lot of my son's problems even though I pointed out that there was nothing wrong with her that caused him to be this way. This therapy continued for years and took over our lives.

C and I became more and more distant and that's when my problem with computer porn began. C would never refuse sex but it always seemed like her heart wasn't into it no matter how hard I tried. I assumed that she just wasn't attracted to me. I now know she was just flat exhausted but I was too self-centered to see that. She kept telling me that it wasn't me, it was her. She just wasn't in the mood as much as I was. I kept trying to think of ways to make her feel sexier about herself. At one point I talked her into letting me take nude photos of her. She did feel sexy posing nude. I then talked her into letting me share them on some Internet newsgroups that I belonged to. She reluctantly (an understatement) agreed. She got glowing comments on her body. I kept trying to convince her how wonderful that was. She went along with it for a while but later asked me to stop and remove the pictures, which, I did.

It was also at this point I got into an obsession that would take YEARS to get over, wife-sharing.

I became fascinated with the whole wife-sharing porn thing. I liked looking at real women, not the plastic stretched Barbie dolls you see in porn. Real women, real wives. There was a taboo aspect of getting to have someone that wasn't mine to have. I read wife sharing stories, I visited wife sharing sites. I started sharing these fantasies with my wife. At first she didn't believe that I was actually turned on by that stuff. But once she believed me, she allowed herself to be turned on by that. She loved the fantasy too. It made sex hotter for us.

But I always push the envelope. At some point I started getting involved in swinger websites. Chatting with them, trying to find out how they convinced their wives to get involved in swinging. This was all under the guise of trying to spice up our sex life. She told me she was completely satisfied. I however, didn't believe her. My own low self-esteem wouldn't let me believe her. How could anyone be satisfied with me?

Eventually I started talking to her about swinging and how free and liberating it would be. She slowly accepted the idea and was even turned on by the notion of sexual freedom. I tried my best to make it sound wonderful and she bought into it. Eventually we even tried a swingers club. It was full of really skanky scary people. However, we did meet a nice couple there and kept in contact with them. I asked her if she would possibly like to hook up with them at some point. She wasn't sure so we talked to them on the phone for a while. Eventually the OM and my wife would talk on the phone and OW and I would talk. It was like dating again it seemed so fun.



We eventually planned a date night with them at a local hotel. OM was a really nice guy, bigger than me so I figured C would have a good time. OW was really sexy and pretty and really boosted my self esteem. Until our clothes came off. Here I was rolling around on this hot sexy woman and... nothing was happening. I never had ED in my life but it just wasn't happening that night. Eventually it did and we had sex. The four of us had sex in every permutation you can imagine (except for OM and I).

At the end of the evening OM/OW were satisfied but ultimately unhappy with us. They were unhappy because they could tell C and I weren't really all that happy. We felt like crap. C felt used and degraded. I felt disappointed and dirty. She didn't do any of the things that turned me on, wouldn't listen, and then got mad that I wouldn't kiss her after she sucked her husband's d!ck.

Afterwards C said this has to stop. I was resistant. I thought that if only we could find the right couple this could be fun and I kept up the search. C was despondent. It was at this point that she fell out of love with me. She later told me that she was about to ask me to move out so we could begin a trial separation. But she decided to try prayer first. We had left the church and left God to pursue our lifestyle, my lifestyle. C turned fully back to God and prayed for me several times a day.

Eventually I had a heart change. I could see that there really wasn't a woman out there that was better than C. But how could she settle for me? I decided that I would just have to take her at her word. I asked for her forgiveness, I even washed her feet, seriously. Just to show her I wanted to be her husband again to be a servant/leader if she'd have me. she forgave me with open arms.

Just prior to the whole swinging excursion our daughter A was born. As difficult as it was to get pregnant with our first, our second was just wham bam. I came home from flying one day, C was in heat, she demanded I take her right there on the couch, and bam. Preggo. A has been the source of light for C and I. Always happy, always singing, always sweetness. She still is even today. When she doesn't have PMS that is. :) I mean how many 15 yo daughters hang around talking with their dads at night playing Angry Birds in Space together? I love her so much.

C and I started back to church again. We changed churches a few times until we found our current church. Our faith grew, our love for each other grew. I became a leader in the church. I helped our church through some crises. C and I grew closer and closer to each other and the Lord. However, the specter of wife sharing lingered in the back of my mind.

C and I tried to be good and keep our sexual fantasies clean. But she enjoyed the fantasy too, just didn't want the reality. I just read that as, she would do it if it was the right situation. Plus, during the throes of sex, she would say as much. But afterwards would always say that's just talk to turn me on. We tried for years and succeeded but I still had that wife sharing desire. I convinced myself it was because I loved watching her. I mean I thought she was the most beautiful woman on this earth, I still do! I loved watching her in the throes of passion, she's gorgeous. I convinced myself that I could watch her enjoying sex with another man without distracting myself.

We came close to actually doing a threesome a couple of times. I would take out ads on adult websites and show her the men who were interested in having sex with her. Of course there were many. A few of them actually surprised her at how ripped and handsome they were. I wasn't surprised. Inside I felt she deserved a better looking man than me anyway. I couldn't understand why she settled for me. To my shame I have to admit to this fantasy and almost making it a reality has been ongoing until last year. Even after I joined TAM. She was even ready to go through with it as recently as last fall. We were actually talking to guy on the phone and setting ground rules.

Then we had a heart to heart. She wanted to know why I really wanted to do this. I came clean. I poured my heart out to her all the reasons and secret feelings I had never shared with her. I won't share them all because some are for her and her alone to know. But the big eye opener her and I is that I never felt loved because she always seemed to avoid my d!ck when we made love. (At this point all the ladies of TAM are saying, "Again with the d!ck why is it always about the d!ck, what is it with you guys?)

She seemed surprised and denied she avoided it. I asked her to tell me what she does. She couldn't remember and we had just made love the prior night. I explained how I felt. That part of my body is how I fully experience her, that part of my body is how I become one with her, that part of me physically links me to her. That if she couldn't love that part of me, I just felt it as overall rejection. That everything I had done in our marriage to try to tear it apart was really just a sh!t test. To finally prove to myself that she didn't really love me after all. Sure I was a good provider, a funny clown to make her laugh, but not someone she was sexually attracted to.

And then she kissed me. It was the most loving sensuous kiss I have ever felt in my life. She didn't say anything, just held my face in her hands and looked at me. I started bawling like a baby. Every bad thought I had ever had toward myself came out in those tears. And at that point I knew I didn't want to share her with anyone. I didn't want her to kiss anyone like that. That was for me and me alone. After I collected myself I told her. No more. I'm not sharing you. It's done. Then it was her turn to cry. She was so relieved. She was only doing it for me. I thought I was doing it for her. We were both stupid.

And from that moment last year I have never wanted to share her. And from that moment she finally understood why I never felt good enough. She asked me to forgive her for that. Can you imagine? The next day she gave me a bj. She's never wanted to do that because of her TMJ. She doesn't seem to have TMJ anymore, maybe because she's practiced so much. I tried to stop her because I wasn't feeling like myself afterwards. I felt like they were mercy bj's. I even started a thread on it. She finally convinced me that she was doing that because she never really thought of my d!ck as the way I explained it to her. That she finally "got" it. She was trying to show that part of me that connects me with her the love she felt for me. And when she thought of it like that, her TMJ didn't kick in. She's finally convinced me that she truly does love me for who I am.

And that pretty much brings us up to now. Sex is amazing now. Our marriage is stronger than ever. I love being around her more than ever. We date, we talk at night, we walk in the afternoons. I credit C and her prayers for keeping our marriage together, for keeping our family together. She put up with me, she put up with years of training, and homeschooling our two children, she put up with years of angry, self-injurious behaviors by my son (even up to today) and nothing but love has ever come from her. I guess there are no warts in this story after all. C has made them all non-existant.

C, you have my heart forever.

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Post-penectomy sex

Hi. I'm back. It has been a struggle getting used to living without a penis (urination is a pain!), but I have been soldiering through. Anyway, as I have been saying in my previous posts, my sex life with my wife has been pretty much consisting of giving cunnilingus. However, I have struggled to find a position that lets me perform oral sex for an extended period of time. That is, with a penis, I could lick for a few minutes before penetration. Post-penectomy, though, I have to eat out my wife for an hour or more. While that may like a very long time, my wife told me that since PIV sex is not happening, I should please her orally and give her multiple orgasms. Since she has been so helpful, I feel I have to oblige her wish. After all, it's something I love.

Anyway, a standard session of cunnilingus has been for my wife to sit on the edge of the bed with her legs wide open, while I sit in a chair and lean in. After a while, though, my neck hurts. So does anyone know any positions for long-term cunnilingus? I would like some help with this.

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alone

My wife walked out two weeks ago and I've not seen or talked to her since. I've just been taking it day by day. I'm amazed I've held together as well as I have so far. Maybe because it's such a relief to not have to be around her nasty personality all the time anymore.


But right now the hard part is facing the realization of just how alone I truly am.


I need to make some new friendships and fast. Over the 12 years we've been married, she's somehow taken up all my time and energy. All my old friendships have faded away.

Now I've really only got just a few acquaintances at work. I've not told anyone at work and just keep acting like everything is normal. I know everyone there will start gossiping behind my back if they find out my wife just walked out on me.

The lack of real friends is rather overwhealming enough, let alone the idea of having to get into the dating scene again.

So here I am on an anonymous web forum typing to strangers.
Ain't life grand. :smthumbup:

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SAHD question and infidelity

Do you think that SAHD are more likely to be cheated on? I would appreciate more of a female point of view on this. Do you think of them as being weaker or less masculine than a man that works full time? Are they more likely to get walked over or shown less respect in your eyes?

Curious on your thoughts. Thanks.

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What's less attractive: living on benefits for life, or using an inheritance?

I am not enjoying uni, and am considering dropping out. I'd live with my parents until they die, then use my inheritance to buy a house and be a landlord/open a B&B.

Is this more or less attractive to a partner than living off benefits?

I only ask because some people say they "don't care about money", but add that they'd think twice if their partner was "destined to live on benefits for life."

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Red flag

I recently noticed a "talk" app on my W's adroid phone. I opened it, and it went to a gmail account, which she has not had previously. I tried to open the account with all the passwords that she's used previously, to no avail. Things have gone really well for us for the last several years. I hate to think the SOS is starting up again (or maybe never ended). Any of you techies out there with suggestions?

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getting over someone you haven't dated!

I've liked a guy at work for around a year now, he has a girlfriend but has said he likes me before but he is now just being rude and acting distant so I really need to get over him but I have to see him at work so it's not all that easy! any ideas?

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What do you say to someone who.......

On Tuesday evening, the 19 y/o sister of my youngest son's best friend was killed in a car accident. She was in the front seat, passenger side. The young man who was driving the car is 18. He is also one of my son's closest friends. He remains in critical condition, in a medically induced coma, with multiple broken bones and bleeding in his brain. Our family is very close to both of these families.

My heart is absolutely broken. The young lady was truly, truly beautiful, inside and out. If my heart is aching, I simply cannot fathom what is going on in the mind of her Mother and her two younger brothers. I so desperately want to find the right words to say, to bring some comfort, some peace, or maybe just a little less pain, but I can't find them. I'm afraid they simply don't exist. No matter what I think I might say, I try to imagine someone saying those words to me, if I had lost one of my own children. I've yet to think of anything that anyone could say or do that could possibly provide me with any measure of comfort.

My best friend's 20 y/o step-son died in a May, 2012, after a short battle with cancer. My friend never had children of her own and her step-son was her husband's only child. My friend says that her husband prays everyday that he will die. And, not a day goes by that he doesn't say how glad he is to be one day closer to seeing his son, again.

I just don't think that we are wired in such a way that we can ever "get over" or even "get through" the loss of our child. At best, I can only assume that anything short of taking your own life, after burying your son or daughter, would be considered a success.

Have any of you ever lost a child? Or known someone who has? It doesn't matter if your baby was 6 weeks old or 60 y/o. Your children are always your babies.

Can anyone offer me some great wisdom that I might offer to a friend who has just suffered the most unbearable loss imaginable?

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Cuteness

All cuteness corrupts,
Absolute cuteness, corrupts absolutely

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Thoughts about EA's

Hello,

From Reading on this and other sites I have become a bit confliced/confused about EA's.

I very seldom find people talking about a same sex EA. Why is that? The thing is that a lot (most) of posters doesn't Think there have to be any talk of sex or such for it to be an EA. As long as the WS gives something emotional that should be reserved for the BS that is enought. By this defenition basically all friendships should be clöassified as an EA. Specially all those to the best friends.

I also fail to see why you wouldn't add hobbies or sports into this as well if they consume a lot of time and emotion from your partner.

What is an EA? A PA is easy to define and an EA that involves sexting or "I love you" kind of talk is also easy to define. But to me there is a huge grey area in EA's and I find it hard to figure that out since most seems to have their own definition of it?

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Good tips for Christmas decorating....

I will start off the first outdoor decorating tip with:

- Keep your lines as straight and orderly as possible; because a house with lights just thrown everywhere and all crooked is not nice to look at and gives off a lazy appearance.

(Good looking example)

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Deleted Text message??

Unfortunately, the problem in my relationship just seem to get bigger every day. Recently, I learned he has been texting a mutual friend/business associate WAYYYYY to much. I confronted him, and told him I wasnt comfortable with it, he said he would only talk to her on a business level, no more hanging out as friends ect.

Although text have reduced tremendously, they are still coming in, but now specifically not when I am around (only during the day while he is working) (suspicious!!!!!!), so I asked him if I could read the conversations (he says, nothing out of line is being talking about) he said sure, i ask for his phone, he says there is none there right now, he deleted them. Obviously, i have upset, he admits they have been talking about our relationship issues as well as other things, and he just didnt want to hurt my feelings. That didnt work!!!

Now, i am starting to think there is more going on then i wanted to believe at first. Is there a way for me to retrieve those deleted texts? I thought i had say a comp program before that would allow you to pull up the actual text of the text messages, as the phone company just gives the number and time. Anyone used a product to get text messages? If so please point me in the direction, i am letting it eat me up now, wondering if i am being stupid by not thinking that it is more then I do.

Please help!

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So annoyed, how is this right?!

OK, husband is in pharmacy school (doctorate program). He rarely works because he claims that he has to concentrate on his studies. Keep in mind that he is living away from home, so he has no child, no wife, no work, just school and his video games.

We've discussed for years that I would continue on with school with the ultimate goal of at least a masters in psychology and possibly undergrad of dietetics. I want to help those with eating disorders...and perhaps if I am a registered dietician I can start working in this field while getting my masters in psychology.

I have taken several courses at a community college (which has a great reputation), while working, and with the child.

I told my husband that I was looking into the schools that are accredited for dietetics, most require full time school, and probably a year of unpaid internship. Though University of Kentucky offers distance learning and suggests part time schooling.

During this conversation with my husband he was basically saying that I will have to continue working while in school, so if I do the full time program I would have 5 days 8-5:30 and 2 days working. :scratchhead:

I'm so pissed off right now at how selfish he is and that it now really appears that he doesn't respect my desire to get my degrees, and he just cares about himself. :mad:

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my thoughts

I need an outlet to the thoughts invading my mind and heart.

I am sitting in an empty room away from everyone, alone. I am doing my NG drill this weekend.
I have lots of thoughts. All of them involved ex. When a divorce happens, both parties rewrite history. I feel this is in order to minimize the pain.
First example: ex telling people I never wanted children. He even told me thats the main reason we are divorcing.
I was very angry!! How dare he! He knows I cant have children, he did not want to adopt, and every time we would save a significant amount of money he would spend it in frivolous things.

Like I said I was pissed beyond anything before, but I realized he has to tell the world this lie so he won't look like a bad person.
I have.decided to let this lie die. It does hurt me because ex was my beat friend, but I will let it die.

I am still very sad and it has been 8 months!
I feel alone and lost...I am looking forward to crying a lot tonight.
It will be cathartic.

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I'm finding my girlfriend very confusing, any help?

I have been with a girl now for 9 months. Now before I write anymore, I know most people will just want to tell me to leave her, and that she's just not capable of a relationship. I realise this, but leaving her is not an option, so any other advice or help will be greatly appreciated.

Im 25, shes 22.

- She gets very tense with physical contact, hugging etc. She does let me hug her, but pulls away after five seconds
- She doesn't like kissing (french) as once someone apparently was sick in her mouth.. understandable.
- She doesn't like talking dirtily
- We haven't actualy had propper sex yet, she finds it painful, something I've suggested the doctor to her about which she's pretended I never said, in denial.
- We're only sexual once ever month or two.
- When we are sexual, she makes no expression at all, doesnt make a sound or move and is extremely tense, almost like a plank.
- She never tells me when shes upset, I know through her friends when something has upset her in her life, job etc, but she always lies to me and tells me shes fine.
- We only see each other once a week or sometimes less
- She occasionaly dissapears for a few days, then comes back adn tells me she misses me, no clue why or what shes doing..
- Recently, she's not been talking as much, distancing herself a lot and I have no clue why... though she still says she misses me. She will post on facebook ''What to do this Saturday night?'' almost as if aimed at me... I will then suggest something, she will ignore me and go out with friends instead.

There are many more things I could write but you get the picture. I know that you all will be wanting to tell me to leave her, but I'm not going to do that.

I'm with her, becasue despite it all, I love her. I don't know why, I just do. It's difficult, yes... but I'm willing to try to understand, and over the months I have understood her more and more, yet theres still a long way to go.

From a psychological point of view, I've figured she's avoidant attachment... and im anxious attachment... which when together are difficult... but doable.

I do not talk too much abotu these things with her as she will simply not be able to respond... she can't explain her emotions or feelings or behaviours well at all. She knows what I think and feel, and seems to try harder each time i do try to convey them to her, yet when she tries harder, she also seems to become more stressed and upset.

Any advice or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

I should also add that she has ADD and dyspraxia.

I know that she loves me, in her own way, she just struggles immensely in showing or expressing her feelings. I have no clue why, but she does. If I felt she didn't love me I would have left, but I know she has good intentions, just many issues.

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I'm a beta male.. do I have a chance? Can I change?

As title reads.. I've been a beta male all my life when it comes to most things. I'm the least talkative in my family, my brother has complete dominance over me, I can't get myself to talk over other people and wait until everyone is silent until I even try to speak. I just can't get myself to argue with anyone.

I'm not the best academically either.

People say what they want about me and I don't say anything in return because I know it will just cause more trouble. I'm absolutely terrified of girls and they tend to dislike me in general. Never really had a girl as a friend as of yet (I'm almost 21). I've tried going to the gym to build confidence but I just get laughed at by all the huge guys there.

I've tried talking to and asked out a few girls but I've been shot down and teased by their friends and my peers 4 out of 5 times. As a result I'm too afraid to speak to most.

I really don't know what to do and I want to change myself but I just can't seem to do it.

Do I have a chance with any girl?

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12 year old with no respect

please help. my 12 year old wont listen or respect me as his father or anyone for that matter. he lies about everything and fights with me my gf and his 6 years old bother all the time. he steals whenever wherever he can.his grades in school are terrible he is at a kindergarten-grade 1 lvl. now his bother is is passing him in school.

he doesn't and never tries anything he just give's up right away it is incredibly hard to help him with homework when he wont try. he hangs around with a bad group of people that are 16-18-26 year old's i try to control it by forbidding him from seeing them but he sneaks around my back anyway. i have to work because i'm a single dad so i cant watch him 24h a day.

the school is at a loss for words even they don't know what to do they have tried all kinds of programs.
we have seen doctors and psychologist, counselors iv'e put him on pills i have tried everything but nothing works.

this has been going on since he was about 5 years old. i keep hoping as he gets older he will snap out of it but with each day it gets worse.

now i even have trouble punishing him because he will just fight with me all day if i try to put him in his room. after 7 years of dealing with this i'm at the end of my rope i'm thinking of placing him in a home for kids i feel like i have no choice even though i don't want to my stress level is through the roof i don't know what to do.

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Help, I don't know how to flirt…with my girlfriend

I'm semi-clueless as to flirting. I can do cheeky jokes, grins, teasing physically and things, or flattery (such as telling her she's beautiful)...I'm actually intimidated when she says something sexual. I don't know how to respond.
Also anything which suggests playing the game where she makes me want her. I don't know how to pretend being that cocky.

I'm just in a strange position where we are in love but I'm fearful of my desires for various reasons and repress them to a point I'm threatened by them and their emergence in other people

It's really quite a strange dynamic since we've been together 8 months, can anyone help?

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Dealing with WAW like a man

If like me you're tired of getting walked on, then it's time to stop being a 'nice guy'. You've been 100% loyal and committed to the marriage and now she walks out! Being ignorant is no reason to let yourself be abused. Let's work together and learn how to 'grow some' and 'man up'. There's strength in numbers, so let's help each other out. Please share your best survival techniques. To get this party started, here's my current list of tactics:

1 Enough is enough. The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. See the pointlessness of arguing with her. No sense trying to reason with an unreasonable person. I can think myself silly trying to make logic and sense of an insane situation. Note that she never apologizes sincerely on her own no matter how badly she acts or says extremely hurtful things. I choose today to be fully prepared to move on with my life.

2 I will stop constantly checking my phone, email and voice mail for messages from her! Notice if she does attempt contact, its hostile, to blame, or because she wants something from to satisfy her own wants and needs. Note how she doesn't admit any wrongdoing, nor shows any remorse. Note how insane it is if she says, "I miss you", considering that she chose to walk out on the relationship. If she does attempt contact, be very aware of the manipulative game she plays for power and control. Shes tries to manipulate using guilt, hopes to be chased after, wants her ego fed, and needs the problems fixed for her.

3 She is the "walk away wife', and that's a fact. Going forward I will remember that. It was her choice to leave. I will remind her of that fact when she attempts to blame me and refuses to be held accountable. She will have to live with the consequences for the rest of her life. She's 'made her own bed and now has to sleep in it' as they say. Personally I don't feel that I will ever see her the same again. She will need have to earn my trust all over again now that she's done this. Ever time I see her I will look at her and see her as someone who isn't committed and is most likely unreliable and her marriage vows don't mean anything.

4 I'm going to take this event and use it to my advantage. I can focus on myself, grow, and discover what I want out of life. Now that she is gone I've been suddenly given gift of time that I can spend working on myself, for myself, and about myself. It's no longer 'all about her'.

5 I will focus on meeting my own needs and finding my own happiness in life. I now have the opportunity to learn how to "detach" from this woman in order to meet my own needs and stop relying on a relationship partner. Repeat the mantra , "if you want something done right... do it yourself". Regardless of where she is and who or what she's doing, I can find my own happiness in life. It looks like it doesn't include her and certainly not the her she is right now. If she's a source of pain in my life, then it's time to let go.

6 I will be my "Plan A". To her, our relationship is at best just a plan B to fall back on. I'm not going to let her just treat me as her 'fall back' until she finds something better that she's obviously out there now hoping/trying to find. Think back and realize how she's attempted this 'walking out' before in various shapes and forms. And each time she's trying it out, she goes a little further with it. Would you say she keeps wanting out? Then in many ways consider she's been long gone. Has she ever been 100% fully in? Note how in the past she's so busy with her personal interests that didn't include you. You could say she's always "been 1 foot out the door" at any given time.

7 I decide today that going forward I can do all kinds of things differently than I'd have typically done in the past. This is a great time for an awesome transformation, and changing the usual pattern of thinking and actions. People often say how "change is good", so I will listen to them now that it's arrived in your life. I can see the positive side of things.

8 Now that she has walked out, I will learn how to ignore her. I will screen my calls and let the call go to messages. Remember she'll likely keep trying to control even from afar. She'll keep testing to see if by withdrawing she can regain control. There's likely something she'll make contact for need/wanting/demanding something again soon and when she does, note that she's not promising commitment to the relationship.

9 No matter how viscous, threatening, abusive, mean and manipulative she is, I choose the noble path of virtuous ethical conduct and wisdom (ie the right speech, action, effort, intent etc). I choose this because I must always live with the results of my actions. I can sleep restfully at night knowing that I've done the right thing.

10 I'm not going to let her lure me back with sex. I'm cutting myself off. I'm unwilling to be in a ***** whipped mindset going forward into the future. The same for alcohol or intoxicants. This is an important time of my life and I want to keep my head straight.


11 No matter how hot she looks, true beauty is on the inside. And note how ugly she has been so often. The outside beauty will fade anyway as the years pass. You know it's a fact, that someone somewhere will eventually be tired of her bull****. If she ever wishes to enjoy the benefits of a mature stable relationship with anyone, she will need to grow up. She has always been a little 'immature' in regards to the relationship and how she thinks her life should be. She may just not like the way life has turned out. A typical 'princess' can't handle when life gets boring or difficult. She hates how real life requires her to be responsible and often lacks fun and excitement and tries to blame others for it.

12 Remember that "nice guys" are not used to the feeling of 'having the upper hand' or 'holding the reins' as they say. 'Nice guys' often don't even like the feeling of being in control. Even when nice guys win, they often feel like they've lost. (Maybe we have some issue with guilt?) Now that the queen has tossed away her crown, you can learn how to be king of your own castle. Don't be quick to hand control back to her or anyone else.

13 Find comfort and joy living peacefully in your own home. Eat good food, and rest well. Enjoy your space comfortably, knowing that when she walked out she abandoned all those wonderful things that you continue to enjoy without her. And now that she's staying somewhere else, she's started using some other sucker for those things she needs/wants, like the self-centred person she is.

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