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So we are really done right?

That's my new post, please give me any possible advice

Basic info
1. we dated 2 years and married 1.5 years
2. we both around late 20s and no kid
3. we were having location problem and so I moved to states for him and we married because of the visa status and reassurance when he go to school.
4. we argued almost every month in the past 1.5 years. Mostly about me being pissed off because of the location that I always wanted to move back to Asia and think he doesn't love me as much as I do to him and he's selfish.
5. he went to internship this june to dec, and I quitted my job on july and followed him there.
6. I went back to Asia on oct 1 and we were still okay by the time I left.
7. Two weeks after I left, we got in fight about the xmas vocation arrangement. He wanted to spend xmas with his family more and wanted to extend the time and adjust the time to visit me.
8. we solve the vocation problem but he brought up more future problem and how to raised kid, job and location.
9. He said divorce around mid oct but recover three days later.
10. He always fluctuate about his job. He promised me he would move back to Asia for me before we got married. Now he said wife job is not as important as husband and he wanted me to give him more time. He said he was under pressure when he promised me to do so before.
11. 12/21, he said he thought i am more important than job so he would take the Asia offer.
12. 12/21-12/24, he said we both should calm down and think about it ourself on what we want. he flight back home from europe on 12/21 and start to become colder. He still responsed my msg on 12/21-22 and still willing to talk but said I need to think about the problem and emotional myself.I got pissed and so continue to send him msg.
13. 12/23-12/24, he refused to reply my msg/email. He said he had nothing to talk. 12/24, he said divorce and he said we talked enough. he said that's the best for us. He even refused to pick up my mom's call. She was sitting next to me and got pissed when she saw his msg about the divorce.
14. 12/25-27 sent him few msg, and he said he had nothing to talk. he still said he missed me but he didn't want to talk.
15 12/28 I start to beg and plead, he said don't do that. He said divorce and our problem couldn't be solve. problem. 1. job 2. location and 3 family. He still rejected me flying there and said if i wanted to recover, flying there will make his family impulsive and non recoverable. He was supposed to fly back to Asia and stay with me for 12/31. He canceled the flight that day.
16. He still called me at mid night and asked where I was and replied to my emailed. 12/30 he promised he would go to MC with me and tried another 1 mth. However, given I don't msg him from that time til 1/20.
17. I failed and msg him some email saying I miss him on 12/31.
18. He replied me with a very cruel email on 1/1. Changed the way he called me. saying that the time being apart he was happier without me and will be happier without me in the future as well. No matter what I did and changed, he wouldn't come back with me. He said we would only discuss about the divorce by email, no more text, email , phone or face on anything. He forced me to choose contested or uncontested. I replied I wanted a face talk. He said he would go ahead with contested then.
19. I kept msg him from 1/1-1/10. He seldom replied. I told him I agreed to sign, but wanted to have a face talk and asked why we became enemy. He said he thought he's doing the best for us and being the most supportive. 1/10, i sent him msg saying seeing him will help me move on. surprisingly he called me on 1/10. we talked for 2 hours. He said no need to have separation period. He just wanted divorce. He said he's not used to the life without me and he's learning as well. The conversation was very normal and I didn't sound unhappy at all.
He agreed to meet up by the end of the month.
20. 1/2, I have another online chat with him and telling him I was very happy to have a talk with him. I said why we would not be friend. etc. He said we could be friend after the legal process and he thinks him talking to me will slow down me moving on. He said he couldn't breath when he was in the relationship. Our happy time was not enough to offset the unhappiness. He was dying. Even he's upset now, but at least he could breath. He said if I drag him back to emotional state, he will be mean again. If i don't drag him he could leave peacefully. He said he didn't want to see MC, but he was emotional when he talked to me, that's why he wanted to avoid talking. He said if it's up to him, he would refer not talk/see.
21. We had another conversation on 1/14. I told him not coming back by the end of the month and shipped back everything and talked abit about spouse support. He answer he would shipped back and I asked for last conversation by gchat. He said he answered all questoins and he seem mad about me asking spouse support. He said we would talk about it in legal process and he said why am I always the one decide everything. why am i mean to him. He hates my fluctuate personality, he hates all our argument and he asked to leave him alone. He said he couldn't breath. He would die and stress if he still in our relationship.
22. same day, after he paid the current month credit card, he said we could cut the card since we both had independent one. I said you told me by phone you would pay it til we legally separated why we cut it. He said he didn't think that he was not being rude. I said we were both reaching our limit maybe we should stop talking and I said no objection on cutting the card.

p.s His friend told me he sent him an email on 12/26 saying that he still loves me but our problem is not solvable. I talked to the friend on 1/1 and he told me even with the cruel email, he said my H might be pressured by his family (his family doesn't like me because they think I always make him unhappy and they don't know we got married until recently because we wanted to keep it private until we have money for our wedding).

I didn't talk to him for 5 days already and he didn't msg me either. We haven't met each other for 3.5 months now and he's in states and I am in Asia now. Are we done? He said he would gather enough information and he update me with the process when he filled up the form.




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Growth after 16?

So I'm 16 years old and insecure about my height

I'm 179/180cm tall. Before you say thats not short etc, I am seeing more and more people over 6 foot.

I have not started shaving yet, so i do not know.

My dad is at least an inch taller than me.




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Do you think my boyfriends fallen out of love with me?

I dont know if im over reacting i need a outsiders advice
My boyfriend and I are 20 and 24 we've been together over a year and hes my first boyfriend im at uni quite close only 40 minutes away

He use to always try to see me and invite me round now i understand due to him working all week his weekends are to see his friends but he just fits me in, maybe an hour before he goes to the pub or on a sunday afternoon when hes so hungover from being out friday and saturday he just sits on the sofa and does nothing. He never ever use to be like this hed see me every saturday now he just cancells to go clubbing.

Hes so cold towards me he wont tell me anything nice he never says he loves me or finds me attractive hes told me once he loved him but he use to do little sweet things like saying he liked my hair or my clothes but now he doesnt he just tells me what ive done wrong 'thats a short skirt' 'what have you done with your makeup ' 'you hairs a mess'

It sounds pathetic but because hes not very emotional he use to do things like send me a 'cute' text after a night out just saying like he missed me or he was looking forward to seeing me as he only said this when he was drunk now he doesnt bother with that either

the physical side of our relationship is non existant he use to always be initiang asking for sex now he doesnt even touch me, even if we do sleep togther he doesnt touch me at all he just wants sex roles over and goes to sleep its made me feel so ugly and repulsive i feel really unattractive and unwanted

He was supposed to see me last night and he cancelled so he could go to the pub, he went with him and his friend and his friends girlfriend which slightly upsrt me. I dont know if im over reacting but ive told him how i feel and he says i just want to cause an arguement but nothing has changed i just feel so ugly and unattractive and like i must have done something wrong to turn him from being a loving caring guy to somebody who doesnt give a **** about me




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Afraid my H is cheating

He lied about Find my friends app today....Said it auto down loaded....I then found it by mistake on a Ipad with his Itunes loaded on it and it was purchased through password in Oct 10, 12 while he was working out of state.

Also when he was home for xmas..His phone was password protected. I asked him about it and he said when he updated the phone it asked for a password to be set...I had to ask him a couple times to take password off before he did.

Also last night he was talking about the kind of car he wants to buy next....I asked him whne he was planning doing this and what year car..He said as new as possible and when ever he wants cause its his money....I went off on him ...saying. I am living at his parents house, our kids don't have bedrooms, our kids are not happy, we haven't filed our bankrupcy yet and he still has 2 years on his car!!

I've just recently started taking screen shots of the texts he sends me. Then I will keep them on file on my computer




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Husband's emotional affair w/employee

My husband recently had an emotional affair with his employee. I found out about and he has told me everthing (I think). He say's its over but they work together VERY closely. He is her boss. From all i have learned it sounds like they were deeply/intensely emotionally involved and 2 months ago (to the day) they told each other they were in love with each other.

He equated what he felt to for her to what he felt for me when we got married. His exact words to her when she asked him how he felt were, "let me put it this way, the last time i felt this way abt someone I was 17 years old. And i ended up marrying that person". He and i started dating when were 17. We got married after college. We were both 23. We are now both 39 and have 2 daughters. (his AP is 24, btw).

They were never physical but teetered on the line 2 months ago. They got as far as agreeing to go back to his hotel room after gng to a concert where they held hands, rubbed legs etc. in the hotel room he decided he cldnt go thru with it. Not bc of me but bc it went against his morals as a married man. (he told me that i was never a consideration, just his morals-he cldnt really explain why). She cried so he sat on the bed and she laid on his chest (clothed). They were both vert sad. Before they left the hotel they had a very intense "embrace" where they stood foreheads touching, eyes
closed, just both silently acknowledging their sadness of the realization this could never be. They then went out and met up with friends (it was abt 1am at this point).

I asked him why after all that did they go back out together. He said he wanted to stay in the moment bc he knew once that night wa over he could never go back. He wants to stay in our marriage, he says he 100% commited to us. He also said that relationship is over and he has shut his feelings down. He said a relationship with her just cant happen (for many reasons) so theres no point in hanging onto and trying to analyze the feelings. Its done.

I have a really hard time believing that is even possible. Emotionally speaking i believe we arent wired that way. He says otherwise. My BIG problem is that still work very closely together in a very emotionally charged profession. He is her boss. The whole "team" at work is him (as the boss), her and one other young woman. The 3 of them sit in a tiny little office together. The company as a whole is small and they identify themselves as a "family". I know he has put up boundaries as much as he can given the environment. I also know she was very much in love with him and wanted a future with him.

Since then she has respected the boundaries and they just continue to work very hard TOGETHER on projects. In the last 2 months there have been 3 occasions he took the 2 of them for drinks to celebrate smthg at work. He always asked me first. I do trust him and I do believe he wants to be in our marriage etc. i just think he might be in some real denial regarding the feelings that grew between them.

Something to note...i found out after noticing he deleted all of his text messages. It took him a few days but he told me everything. If i hadnt found out his plan was to pull back on the relationship with her and they wld just continue on as great friends who work together while he wld reinvest that emotional energy back into us. Anyone have advice??




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What is my husband trying to tell me?!

Hi, I'm new here and in desperate help! Have no one to talk to!! I'm a 34 y/o f, been married to my 34- y/o husband for almost 4 years, dated for 3 and engaged for 1. Our relationship hasn't always been perfect since the beginning, but I always thought it was normal for couples to have differences. We were very in love and couldn't get our hands off of each other. After we got married, we started to try to conceive right away and that's when things started to go wrong. We weren't successful after months of trying, and in the meantime we also went through the stress of buying a house to prepare for this family to start. After 3 years of trying, we have a huge house but still no baby. Hubby started to have erection issues, hence we are not having enough sex, sometimes we'd let months go by. He kept blaming himself, long story short my MD recommended us to try IVF, and my husband was very supportive and said he's ready when I am. Until last week.... he told me he started seeing a therapist because of his issues, I told him if he thinks it helps him I am supportive. But yesterday he told me he realized he doesn't have "issues", he realized he's just unhappy and he's not attracted to me anymore....then the conversations led to how he thinks he's not meant for marriage and he doesn't want to drag me further. He says he doesn't want a divorce and he wants to keep going to therapy, but in the meantime he wants us to "separate" so he can think. I asked him what I've done wrong he says nothing, he just wants to do whatever he wants to without having to think about me. He then days he doesn't enjoy doing anything with me anymore, he just wants to go to work, comes home watches sports and sleeps. He says he can't give me happiness anymore.
I'm so confused??!!! Is he going to leave me.???




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Find My friends App?? Itunes users

Does anyone know what this app is really used for?? looking for infedility??

I found over Xmas that my H has this app on his phone. I didn't ask him about it till today....He first said it wasn't on his phone, I said I saw it on his phone and it said New. Then he said it Auto down loaded when he updated his phone...I said I have Iphone it has not done that ever....then I said oh did it down load from one of his games..he said yes....I dropped the discussion, but didn't really believe him.

So now I was on the kids Ipad which has his Itunes account and found it in the apps....It says purchased Oct 10, 2012.

I'm real angered that he lied to me cause that shows there is something to hide....

Anyone else know about this app...Is this a cheating type app where OW and hijm could have thier secret conversation? He has Iphone, so if OW now has Iphone I would not see texts because of Imessage. I also do not know her number.




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My wife won't let me go, what should I do?

G'day,

On my previous thread I asked for advice regarding getting over infidelity. I took the advice of the people that advised me, the consensus was to move on. My best buddy recommends the same thing (he knows me best) but my Mum thinks I should stay. I have been separated now for 6-8 months and I have tried to reconcile. Please see the previous threads for more information (if you have the time that is - any advise really appreciated).

So I told my wife that there is no other way but divorce but I still want to be part of her life and help her, she said marriage or nothing. I am way too frightened to move back into the house after what happened last time, it was almost it for me back there - what am I supposed to do?

So my wife just started crying on the phone - I had NEVER heard her cry in the whole relationship. I reminded her that I was the one in tears on the kitchen floor about 4 times begging her not to ask me to go when she did in the past. When I did go she does it!

Anyway it broke my heart and I couldn't stand it, I couldn't stand to hear her so upset and in mental pain. She was a freaking mess I have never heard her like this before. I could not bear it so I said that we will continue to work on things then on SMS after the call. It was killing me, she immediately started sending me texts how she loves me and how she misses the small things I do like crinkle my nose, the jokes I tell, how I make her laugh and make her feel safe. I felt so bad.

I don't know what to freaking do. I just am not ready to move back in after what happened last time. I can't face it, it was 3 months of mental health hell with her being distant and wanting me out. Man for my own self preservation I cannot move back in to that house because of the memories.

Can someone please help me. I have been taking the advise here on the forum and I need some more, has anyone been through anything like this before? Maybe she realized she does love me after I left but that doesn't change the fact that the marriage may not work out, if we fall back into old habits it definitely won't.

I have NEVER had a woman try this hard to get me back EVER. I have never had a woman apparently love me this much, this is so painful. I don't know what to do.




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should i let him touch me

I have been with my boyfriend for 4 months, i am almost 14 and he is 15, one school year older. We were also friends for a long time before, we do trust eachother.

Would it be wrong to let him finger me and touch me? (keep in mind i wouldnt go any further than this?

Thanks :$




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Q for the Ladies over 30

To be blunt.... do you let your man pop in your face? Forgive me, I'm bored and working late, but this is an actual question that is based on personal experience. It seems younger girls are more likely to enjoy this, while women I've dated over 30 seem repulsed by the idea. I don't know if it's because porn has become mainstream in recent years and easily accessible on the internet, but I can literally say that every girl I've dated under 30 is much more open to things like swallowing, anal sex and other kinky things. Many also seem to be bi-curious or at least up for experimentation if the mood strikes. Obviously, there are exceptions on both sides, and it's not my intent to label, discredit or insult anyone. Your thoughts?

P.S.

If you respond, please state your age (or at least say if you're over or under 30)




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Interesting situation: Need some major advice..pls ppl!

Ok heres my story and I REALLY would like to get some opinions out of this one!! PLEASE! Im Chinese and this Korean guy msged me about 3month ago on this social app, then we eventually met. We went out a couple of times, he kissed me after out 3rd or 4th date..then it because a routine for us to fool around in his car every time we go out.

Initially in this 3-4month period, he seems very enthusiastic i.e.calling me, making date plans and stuff. Now that we've been having pretty good sex ever since we started spending night together rather than in his car..it seems I'm making all the effort.

If I dont txt or call him, he wont do much..He didnt talk to me at all over Xmas time!! So i didnt talk to him either. Then he txt me saying happy new yr..then ask if i changed my # or something..so I told him i thought he was no longer interested..then he said "if u want to be friends i understand, but pls wait for me and I ll prove it to you"..but he basically still ignores me after that....

right now is like this: whatever i say, he'll do. But his not making any effort to improve whatever it is that we have. IS IT OBVIOUS THAT HIS JUST NOT INTERESTED?? DID I HAVE SEX WITH HIM TOO EARLY? OR DID I SHOW HIM MY LIKING TOO MUCH?

please help because i don't want to give up yet..I'm an attractive person, yet have never been able to maintain anything longterm yet...thats y i dont want to just drop this!




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Double edged sword (seeking opinions from the ladies)

I don't know how to say this without coming across cocky, but in a nutshell... I've always had this, lets call it, "ability" to make a good first impression with the ladies. Whether it's a bar, club or social function, meeting women is never a challenge and those I pursue always seem to become infatuated with me instantly. Again. I realize this sounds cocky, but I swear that I'm not some player or rabid digit collector. In fact. I'm reaching out to the ladies on this forum for enlightenment because it's those same traits that attract women to me that ultimately turn them away. Over time, they seem to get turned off by the same things that turned them on. No. I'm not a terrible lover or a secret assbag, it's more along the lines of my no-nonsense, carefree attitude about life that seems exciting at first. then threatening later on. I've always prided myself for being authentic and not changing, but is this the problem? Am I a project that women eve ntually realize is "unfix-able"? Any thoughts?




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She wont answer.my calls and shes 6months pregnant when she left me

Ive been with her oneyear she walked out when she was 6months pregnant. She says its because of our argements and livin at my mums she dont like. I never spent a day away from her but shes at her mums. Her mum says she dont like me. And im not invited in her mums house. And my girlfriend dont want to come back every time I call she says shes not comming back. Now we argued over phone she wont pick up my calls nor text me. Its been 1and a half weeks. Ive stop calling her 4days ago. My friend said to me shes been talking to so bloke over facebook I dont belive him hes always full of lies. Her cloths are still at my mums. I knocked for her and her mum slammed door in my face. The babys mine I know so. But all ive done is love her and its driving me mad because I want to be a dad but I think shes run off and im deppressd. What do u think shes up 2? Hormins aint that bad I just want her back I*




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Lazy Wife (Depressed ?)

Hi -

I'm a 37 year old male. We have been together for 12 years. Over the years my life has been full of drama due to her, and I've always been steady state. I've put myself through school, and have held the same job for 15 years.

The problem is my wife (36)is unwilling to do ANYTHING .... She will not clean, wash her own clothes, pick up after herself, remember to pay her own bills. Her bedroom (We have started sleeping apart because she has to have the TV on and dog in the room to fall asleep and won't compromise) looks like an episode of Hoarders. 20 cokes that are half drunk, clothes everywhere. She might wash clothes once a month but never puts them up, they just end up in another room to be picked through. The house gets nasty quickly and it is always up to me to initiate and get things cleaned up. On the weekend it's like pulling teeth to get her to help clean up at all. And we always end up in a fight because her attempts to clean up always end up in a half ass job that I have to do anyways. She does not cook much either, and when she does she never washes a dish or runs the dishwasher. I literally have to take care of everything to keep from being buried in this house.

She currently has a job now and has had it for over a year. This is a new record. She has had more jobs and been fired so many times. She was addicted to pain killers for awhile back then and has always had back problems.

I fell in love with her because she does have a big caring heart, but I just feel like I'm not getting any help. I could type all night but the bottom line is the whole house is on me.

Our Sex life has waned and is mostly uninspired now. I try to talk to her and encourage her to go back to the doctor and tell him exactly whats going on. No one should lay on the couch all day and do nothing. She has been to doctors and psychologists. She take anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds. She accepts everything the doctors say as the bible and rarely uses common sense. I feel the meds have ruined her. She is pretty much now a chain smoker and has gained about 40 pounds. She says she is going to go to the doctor but never goes.

When we talk or argue about any of this, I'm accused of putting her down and nagging. I may be guilty of a bad comment in the heat of an argument, but the only reason we are fighting is because I can't get her to do anything.

I understand that she may be depressed, but she has no drive to fix herself in any way. I feel like I need to start over, I've just put so much time into this it is hard and sad to think about leaving it behind. The bottom line is I'm not happy and all we do is argue. The love seems gone, even though she will tell me she loves me it seems pretty hollow. I feel like I deserve better treatment.

Anyways just venting, wondering how many others are dealing with things like this and if there is any advice. I'm open to criticism if I'm not seeing something here.




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Dealing with abuse

Without getting into too many details, I do believe I am in an abusive relationship where my concerns are belittling (him telling me I don't do enough around the house, him saying I'm a horrible mother, blaming me when things go wrong, etc.), name calling (particularly referring to me as fat when I was pregnant), and finally, there are some concerns over the intimidation that has happened a few times now. It involves squeezing my face at the temples or sides of my chin and preventing me from either calling police, leaving the house, and him saying, "don't use those scare tactics". Afterwards, he says it's not abuse as there are no marks and also says that "it's the only way I can get through to you" or "it's the only way you will listen."

He has chased me to the car before to try and take it so that "you will lose your job" if I don't make it in that day (thankfully, I was always able to wrestle the keys away).

When I say I want to go to counseling, he says he'll never change. When I say I want out, he says he'll just take the car and that I will have to pay him for the house (which I tell him the court figures out, and I don't have to give him the money upfront).

He says there's no way I'd ever get a restraining order, as they don't just "hand those things out" and that without marks on me, I won't be able to get one. Also, he says, "oh yeah, I just beat you and bruise you up" as if to imply that because he doesn't take it to that level, it's not abuse.

I had seen a counselor in the past who told me that when he put his hands on my chin that time and lifted me up, it was basically him putting his hands on my neck.

There are children we have together which makes it all more complicated.

I honestly think he would see what he stands to lose only if I were gone. But yet he loves his kids so much and I feel like a terrible person if his whole world gets turned upside down. I care about his well being.

He is in denial about himself being a manipulator and I wish he would read just ONE thing I give him on domestic abuse so he could see he has an issue or I wish he would agree to counseling.

He says I am crazy and that the kids are the reason for his stress.

What would you do if it were you? This sucks. :(




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