There is a contingent on this board (thankfully not so much in what I have experienced in life) that has some attitudes that I don't think are realized to have a very DIRECT impact on undesired results.
There are group of men who have this attitude that sex is a thing to get. They'll marry to get it. They'll pay in the form of dates or family provision to get it. It is a thing to "get". The delivery mechanism of this commodity is rated solely on hotness.
There was once a time when this exchange was considered fair. That time has largely gone.
And what these people don't get, as they fail to adapt to a new world order where women don't NEED a guy to pay for them, is that there is and always has been a whole world of wonderful love and sexual relationship that treats both partners as ... well partners, fully, actually and wholly. And in the new world order where more women are requiring that or nothing at all, it is the very attitude of woman as sexual commodity that MAKES these guys so very, very unattractive.
I think of the people in my life. I have a relative who suffered a TBI at a young age. As a result of that he has had surgeries, suffered accidents that have caused more surgeries, has speech issues. Never had trouble getting dates. Is happily married to a wonderful woman. I have a brother who is super short. Never had trouble getting dates. Happily married. Teen aged kids complain about the noises from their bedroom.
The list goes on from my friends, to more distant relations to coworkers. I obviously have no direct insight into many of their sex lives. But they sure don't come off as dolorous as the dudes on here. And the way they treat women in the rest of their lives makes it hard to imagine their attitude is one of commodity.
I see no evidence of this 80/20 thing. I think that is an excuse that sad sack, loser guys use to excuse the fact that they are, in fact, sad sack, losers. Who are the other 80% of women dating. Because don't we know that if you are a woman, you can date at the drop of a hat?
Or could it be that since sex is a commodity to get and women are its delivery mechanism rated solely on hotness, that they are just bitter that they can't get their California dime? Cuz women are gonna wanna hit THAT.
Am I off base?
There are group of men who have this attitude that sex is a thing to get. They'll marry to get it. They'll pay in the form of dates or family provision to get it. It is a thing to "get". The delivery mechanism of this commodity is rated solely on hotness.
There was once a time when this exchange was considered fair. That time has largely gone.
And what these people don't get, as they fail to adapt to a new world order where women don't NEED a guy to pay for them, is that there is and always has been a whole world of wonderful love and sexual relationship that treats both partners as ... well partners, fully, actually and wholly. And in the new world order where more women are requiring that or nothing at all, it is the very attitude of woman as sexual commodity that MAKES these guys so very, very unattractive.
I think of the people in my life. I have a relative who suffered a TBI at a young age. As a result of that he has had surgeries, suffered accidents that have caused more surgeries, has speech issues. Never had trouble getting dates. Is happily married to a wonderful woman. I have a brother who is super short. Never had trouble getting dates. Happily married. Teen aged kids complain about the noises from their bedroom.
The list goes on from my friends, to more distant relations to coworkers. I obviously have no direct insight into many of their sex lives. But they sure don't come off as dolorous as the dudes on here. And the way they treat women in the rest of their lives makes it hard to imagine their attitude is one of commodity.
I see no evidence of this 80/20 thing. I think that is an excuse that sad sack, loser guys use to excuse the fact that they are, in fact, sad sack, losers. Who are the other 80% of women dating. Because don't we know that if you are a woman, you can date at the drop of a hat?
Or could it be that since sex is a commodity to get and women are its delivery mechanism rated solely on hotness, that they are just bitter that they can't get their California dime? Cuz women are gonna wanna hit THAT.
Am I off base?
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