objectification, dominance, and being a man

In a (mostly failed) attempt to stop hijacking other people's threads, I've decided to start another of my own. Men of TAM, please bear with me. I very much want to understand male perspectives on objectification and dominance of women. Some of you have started to enlighten me, but I'm very confused and need more ... Quote: Originally Posted by DvlsAdvc8 (Post 1382579) Men DO objectify women sexually. To say that is wrong is to say that its wrong to be a man. Is this really true? How universal is it for men to believe that your basic relationship with women is to objectify them? And how is it that you don't see this as disrespectful? Quote: Originally Posted by Caribbean Man (Post 1382943) Sexual dominance is not to be confused with the type of dominance that causes fear and other negative emotional responses. This dominance is what builds sexual tension and attraction . There is a difference. I don't understand. In another post, someone (DvlsAdvc8?) said that women like dominant men because of survival and security. What's the difference between a dominance that provides survival, security, sexual tension, and one that rapes, pillages, and overthrows? It may well be that most women like "dominant" men, but honestly I don't get why they would go for the so-called bad boys or alphas any more than I get why men fall all over themselves for the hottie that manipulates them into giving her cash and favours in exchange for exactly nothing. Did I choose my SO because of his dominance? Maybe. I never would have thought of it in those terms, but I did find it refreshing that he was not at all threatened by me ... Quote: Originally Posted by jaquen (Post 1382748) All along you have exhibited a glaringly obvious, fundamental problem with maleness, period. Why is it anti-male to complain about the objectifications of porn? Is porn watching so essential to manhood that uttering any criticism of it makes a women only suited to singlehood and lesbianism? (BTW, thanks for the input, jaquen, but I think I'd choose dominatrix over lesbian. It may not be much of a turn-on, but what a great money-maker!) And, last but not least, if objectification and dominance is such an important part of your relationship to women, what does love or intimacy mean to you? Why did you marry? Why not just spread your seed to all the hot bods you can get your hands on? Is it just so that you know which kids you need to pay for/look after? Or what?

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